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tiens, il y a un nouveau mail de judy justement-... </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:02:13</span></dt><dd>je sors m'acheter une gauffre ...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:06:15</span></dt><dd>ok</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:08:00</span></dt><dd>participation: pour samedi on peut compter déjà sur cym, laure, moi, toi - 4 personnes</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:08:49</span></dt><dd>ensuite voire avec audrey, judy, nathalie, chris, amiraly si ils sont dispos</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:09:43</span></dt><dd>c'est clair que le type d'idées de Judy demande de s'y prendre plus de 2 jours à l'avance (surtout sans physical venue...)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:11:36</span></dt><dd>une grande question c'est aussi de savoir si on fait un ramdam sur les mailinglists pour commencer à avoir de l'audience online - c'est peut-être un peu trop tôt - mieux vaut peut-être considérer samedi comme un event de recherche et développement</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:12:22</span></dt><dd>et j'oubliais the league qui semblaient dire que le 4 ils partaient pour la norvege et que de la-bas ils voulaient participer à 070707</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:14:21</span></dt><dd>have judy manage as the tresorière is quite a funny prospect </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:15:39</span></dt><dd>4 online users right now on the wiki!?!</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:15:51</span></dt><dd>2 now..</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:31:10</span></dt><dd>ok. voila.</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:31:51</span></dt><dd>the league a laissé un message dans le wiki..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:31:52</span></dt><dd>lucy- the league vient d'ajouter comments sur 070707 script</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:31:59</span></dt><dd>//</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:32:31</span></dt><dd>est-ce qu'on invite cym et amirali à la discussion? ils sont en ligne.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:32:42</span></dt><dd>nylon apporte un vent agréable!</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:32:47</span></dt><dd>ou y a t-il des choses à décider avant?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:33:08</span></dt><dd>mm i think</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:34:03</span></dt><dd>invitons les</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:34:36</span></dt><dd>(j'ai perdu le contact d'amirali)</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:35:48</span></dt><dd>welcome all to the chat session dedicated to the preparation of the upcoming aether performance....</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:36:00</span></dt><dd>oh hello</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:36:05</span></dt><dd>hi there</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:36:10</span></dt><dd>hello</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:36:17</span></dt><dd>HI</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:37:04</span></dt><dd>so some preparation has been done on the wiki: http://www.1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=070707+performance+script</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:37:12</span></dt><dd>yes, as you maybe saw if you visited the wiki page recently, there are a number of topic proposals</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:38:22</span></dt><dd>and i know some of you watched the last performance on friday, from a viewer perspective, wich was revealing some difficulties we should keep in mind..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:39:15</span></dt><dd>J. Nylon made very interesting proposals, but i feel that saturday 070707 is coming too soon to work on them effectively, as so many people may be involved - i feel that we should concentrate on something less "deep" if i may say...</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:39:45</span></dt><dd>((btw, remote control monkey studios AKA the league are traveling now in norway, right?))</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:40:54</span></dt><dd>and I'm in a messy situation in tehran</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:41:04</span></dt><dd>what time will the performance be? i probably won't be there at 19h CET, but later would be possible for me</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:41:06</span></dt><dd>ah YES - 2 in Norway - though some of us still in LA - related to viewing issues, I think of these performances as EXPERIMENTS - valuable as art/technology experimenters, in the vein of experiential art pieces...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:41:08</span></dt><dd>I'm not sure if I can make it as well</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:41:24</span></dt><dd>nothing too bad i hope, amirali?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:41:31</span></dt><dd>not really</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:41:49</span></dt><dd>over loaded with deadlines</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:42:01</span></dt><dd>like we all..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:42:07</span></dt><dd>but i will follow everything closely</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://amiralionly" title="amiralionly">Amirali ghasemi</a>: <span>22:42:11</span></dt><dd>yeah</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:42:13</span></dt><dd>are there 7 entities?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:42:34</span></dt><dd>i wanted to write an e-mail to the list but didn't find time yet</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:42:37</span></dt><dd>Is this part of the Elements of Chance conference?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:43:35</span></dt><dd>as far as i know there are no news about this conference, so i guess it's dead or postponed.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:44:16</span></dt><dd>are we still attached to that theme - fits well with numerology/ number seven</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:44:57</span></dt><dd>7 entities: there's 3 confirmed for the moment (laure, manu, boris) - </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:45:11</span></dt><dd>I'm in from Norway.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:45:18</span></dt><dd>good</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:45:48</span></dt><dd>now the 7pm concept is 7pm CET wich means it's at 8 in austria, right?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:45:52</span></dt><dd>((sorry, another side note: on the same date another remote performance event is going on: http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=56 --- certainly interesting to watch some of those performances))</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:46:43</span></dt><dd>austrian time is the same as brussels, but yes, 7CET is 8 because it is now summer (+1)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:46:48</span></dt><dd>ok</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:46:50</span></dt><dd>funny one of those is about rabbits - linked to the brainstorm...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:47:10</span></dt><dd>yeah - it's an looong program... </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:47:18</span></dt><dd>i am downloading the avi right now..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:48:14</span></dt><dd>it is just sound?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:48:30</span></dt><dd>no - there should be image...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:48:55</span></dt><dd>is there set structure, beyond going through the numbers 1 through 7? shall we each do something successively, adding up to seven?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:49:29</span></dt><dd>i would very much like to work with colors</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:49:41</span></dt><dd>7 colors good give an interesting structure</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:50:05</span></dt><dd>each of us using only one color?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:50:21</span></dt><dd>colors and numbers, i would really like to try a session without a real story some time</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:50:27</span></dt><dd>re- about the time concept, wouldnt we rather take 7 pm UTC? this is 9 pm in austria, brussels, geneva (actually the same time as the last performance)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:50:33</span></dt><dd>sometimes all frames use the same color</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:50:39</span></dt><dd>sometimes different colors</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:50:49</span></dt><dd>sometimes there are certain patterns</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:51:01</span></dt><dd>yes manu, that would be better for california as well.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:51:45</span></dt><dd>would be really nice to appear to pass color or object from one panel into another - or have an image change colors from screen area to area - play a bit with sense of illusion</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:51:48</span></dt><dd>and UTC is the so called "universal standard time", so that would be more conceptually logical..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:52:24</span></dt><dd>i think it would be much easier for us to focus on coordination (to start at the same time) on synchronisation, when the content is more simple</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:53:16</span></dt><dd>in the last performance, we tried to create such an illusion by havong a glass passing from frame to frame - but a glass is not disctinc enough (too small and transluscent) - we need a greater object(s).</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:53:45</span></dt><dd>like...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:53:51</span></dt><dd>maybe use this stopwatch - coordinate to start at same time? http://tools.arantius.com/stopwatch</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:54:10</span></dt><dd>http://stopwatch.onlineclock.net/</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:54:14</span></dt><dd>that is also a nice idea, to pass an object around the world, from frame to frame. but it should be a very clear, simple object that looks the same in every frame</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:54:19</span></dt><dd>we used this one the other day</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:54:30</span></dt><dd>what about a bold color then, that gets passed - maybe different objects but just this big red or blue or yellow color?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:54:45</span></dt><dd>we used an online stopwatch during the rotterdam performance. still i had the impression not everybody was really synchronised...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:54:49</span></dt><dd>(on the last max patch - that could work with windows as wel - there's a great stopwatch)</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:55:33</span></dt><dd>yes, because with so many things, the pathc, the chat win, the webpage, the stopwatch, my 12-inch screen was becoming too small</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:55:42</span></dt><dd>fyi: we plan to use ftp/ not max</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:55:43</span></dt><dd>i am not sure if a stopwatch will be enough. better would be if you can see the jam at the same time when you are playing and you can react immediately to what is happening in the other frames</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:55:57</span></dt><dd>yes the object should look or be the same (but better not a manufactured corporate object), something paradigmatic</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:56:00</span></dt><dd>but then the images that you are uploading must allow a direct reaction...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:56:32</span></dt><dd>maybe we could eat an apple together</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:56:40</span></dt><dd>and this is not the case and will not by 070707...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:56:47</span></dt><dd>pass it from one frame to the next and in every frame it gets smaller...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:56:53</span></dt><dd>eat an apple, mmm.</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:57:00</span></dt><dd>and btw we didn't use the chat for synchronisation during the performance, but relied on a precise script. i felt much more confortable with this than having to listen all the time for chat messages....</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:57:09</span></dt><dd>so prepared apples...</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:57:17</span></dt><dd>about eating, that was a comment i had from my helper here</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:57:19</span></dt><dd>a precise script is definitely a good idea</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:57:38</span></dt><dd>together with stopwatch it will give a good start</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:57:45</span></dt><dd>eating across a network has good history - lots of online dinner parties, etc</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:57:50</span></dt><dd>we've had a few</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:58:06</span></dt><dd>online dinner party sounds good</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>22:58:18</span></dt><dd>here's the script we relied on for rotterdam:http://www.1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=020707+rotterdam+script</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:58:32</span></dt><dd>... comment about food: - rather than just a glass of water, it would be better (visually) if we would be eating a dish of pasta altogether..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:58:37</span></dt><dd>we could make an aether9 dinner party, without a script, just eating together</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>22:59:06</span></dt><dd>maybe that could be a concept: an online dinner between mathematicians...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:59:15</span></dt><dd>oh, good idea, everybody cooks the same dish of pasta, then put the webcam on the table where you are eating and we are all sitting around the same table</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:59:24</span></dt><dd>or maybe the middle frame can be the dish</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:59:35</span></dt><dd>shall we eat numbers, formulas?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>22:59:45</span></dt><dd>perhaps some of us eating food, other numbers?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>22:59:54</span></dt><dd>but i think these are all ideas for the future</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:00:00</span></dt><dd>I like the idea of cutting text/numbers/formulas with knife and fork</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:00:01</span></dt><dd>for saturday it will have to be more simple</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:00:09</span></dt><dd>eating numbers?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:00:30</span></dt><dd>return to apple?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:00:47</span></dt><dd>apple or orange is good, because it is a simple shape</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:00:56</span></dt><dd>i think it should be a very basic shape</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:01:05</span></dt><dd>but an apple alone doesnt make a meal...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:01:06</span></dt><dd>banana is also okay</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:01:21</span></dt><dd>but makes a good image on a webcam</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:01:22</span></dt><dd>i like eating formulas and texts! pasta and apples are good symols</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:01:38</span></dt><dd>could we interpret? I would like to draw the apple perhaps</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:01:44</span></dt><dd>these examples in coding are always with apples and bananas</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:01:53</span></dt><dd>like when the put an examples of an array</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:02:08</span></dt><dd>is always with apples, oranges and bananas</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:02:48</span></dt><dd>the example of an array is often showed with apples, bananas and oranges, i meant...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:03:19</span></dt><dd>thinking of those crazy math word problems that give one person so many apples, and then after 4 bites, 3 stomach aches and 2 hungry friends with one with allergy to apples, how many bites of apples are left...we could play with complex silly formulas, eat apples, and...</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:03:42</span></dt><dd>fruits = array('apples','bananas','oranges','grapes');</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:03:56</span></dt><dd>yes, thanx aether, that is what i was looking for..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:05:10</span></dt><dd>from the php manual:</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:05:13</span></dt><dd>$fruits = array (<BR>
"fruits" => array("a" => "orange", "b" => "banana", "c" => "apple"),<BR>
"numbers" => array(1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6),<BR>
"holes" => array("first", 5 => "second", "third")<BR>
);</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:05:33</span></dt><dd>that would make a nice salad indeed</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:05:56</span></dt><dd>7 frames, 7 fruits, 7 colors</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:06:00</span></dt><dd>holes - numbers - fruits</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:06:41</span></dt><dd>one formula?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:06:49</span></dt><dd>and two holes</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:07:29</span></dt><dd>a formula for two holes and 4 fruits </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:08:10</span></dt><dd>theorematicly speaking</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:09:06</span></dt><dd>i like to work with fruits as simple shapes/objects and connect them with colors (one color for each fruit), but then there should be some specific action</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:09:43</span></dt><dd>found this:</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:09:52</span></dt><dd>mixing them all together in the center-frame, passing them around from one frame to another, but there should be some sort of story or movement</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:09:53</span></dt><dd>Here is one formula for seven...<BR>
<BR>
3X + L<BR>
<BR>
L = last digit<BR>
X = everything in front of last digit.<BR>
<BR>
All numbers that are divisible by seven have this in common. <BR>
There are no exceptions.<BR>
<BR>
For example, 42: 3(4) + 2 = 14.<BR>
Seven divides into 14, so it divides into 42.<BR>
<BR>
Next example, 105: 3(10) + 5 = 35.<BR>
Seven divides into 35, so it divides into 105.<BR>
<BR>
Here is another formula for seven:<BR>
<BR>
4X - L<BR>
<BR>
When using this formula, if you get zero, seven or a multiple of seven, <BR>
the number will be divisible by seven.<BR>
<BR>
For example, 56: 4(5) - 6 = 14.<BR>
Seven divides into 14, so it divides into 56.<BR>
<BR>
Next example, 168: 16(4) - 8 = 56.<BR>
Seven divides into 56, so it divides into 168.</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:10:01</span></dt><dd>putting theory aside i'm just thinking about the visual right now... to watch in each frame the preparation of a complex culinary experiment could be quite fun to watch</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:10:58</span></dt><dd>maybe we could create some fine receipts, using those fruits, and integrating mathematical formulas (7x7 ounces of ginger..)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:11:01</span></dt><dd>but a close up of the pan would be better than to see the person putting it inside and mixing it</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:11:09</span></dt><dd>mixing culinary preparation with math? what if we are just cutting apples but spending a lot of time on the formula?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:11:25</span></dt><dd>cut each apple in 7 pieces</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:11:34</span></dt><dd>of equal size</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:11:51</span></dt><dd>each using serious equipment (don't tell each other ahead of time and see what we come up with)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:12:09</span></dt><dd>cooking (creating a dish) is good, because it is a clear story with beginning and end</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:12:21</span></dt><dd>and with a climax..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:12:25</span></dt><dd>which is easy to follow for anyone</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:12:41</span></dt><dd>or anticlimax... especially when i am cooking</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:12:45</span></dt><dd>if 7 frames have related food better storyline</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:13:40</span></dt><dd>we can put the recipe on the website</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:13:52</span></dt><dd>(aether9, you filmed your screen during the last performance - is the result satisfying? cause we need a way to record... well in the latest patch there's a "record" button - but it will be a single recording)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:13:58</span></dt><dd>so the viewers can follow what we are doing</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:15:28</span></dt><dd>must go soon - when do we meet again? a bit of a trial tomorrow or? meet beforehand online? should decide soon what we are making so we have time to shop if need to</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:15:31</span></dt><dd>(thom, didnt watch the recording yet, and i think it will not be overwhelming quality, since it was filmed by minidv camera from screen. but good to have for archival purposes)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:15:53</span></dt><dd>yes, if we really cook something together i should know tomorrow the latest what to buy</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:16:08</span></dt><dd>but again, i am not even sure if i will make it in time for the performance on saturday</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:16:16</span></dt><dd>how long is the performance - will maybe determine how long a recipe!</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:16:20</span></dt><dd>is there already an overview who is in which frame?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:16:36</span></dt><dd>7X7 = 49 minutes</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:16:50</span></dt><dd>no overview yet.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:16:52</span></dt><dd>were my photos from monday any useful?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:17:05</span></dt><dd>certainly.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:17:10</span></dt><dd>and how will the 7 cams be on the screen?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:17:36</span></dt><dd>good question...</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:17:36</span></dt><dd>3+3+1?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:17:43</span></dt><dd> X X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:17:47</span></dt><dd>X X X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:17:51</span></dt><dd> X X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:17:54</span></dt><dd>2 - 3 - 2</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:18:01</span></dt><dd>XXX</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:18:03</span></dt><dd>XXX</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:18:04</span></dt><dd>X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:18:07</span></dt><dd>what about 7 across?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:18:20</span></dt><dd>?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:18:24</span></dt><dd>XXXXXXX</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:18:37</span></dt><dd>3 left 1 in middle 3 right</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:19:00</span></dt><dd>i would like to have the hole in the middle, but then it must be 8</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:19:13</span></dt><dd>x x<BR>
xxx<BR>
x x</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:19:31</span></dt><dd>maybe like that indeed:</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:19:33</span></dt><dd>x-x<BR>
xxx<BR>
x-x</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:19:47</span></dt><dd>good</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:20:12</span></dt><dd>X X X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:20:16</span></dt><dd>X X</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:20:17</span></dt><dd>X x</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:20:27</span></dt><dd>nooooo</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:20:34</span></dt><dd>:) </dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:20:51</span></dt><dd>have to go - please email the full chat after, yes?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:21:01</span></dt><dd>sure</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:21:01</span></dt><dd>okay</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:21:08</span></dt><dd>good evening!</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:21:21</span></dt><dd>question: can two league members perform?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:21:31</span></dt><dd>one from norway, one from LA?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://remotecontrolmonkey" title="remotecontrolmonkey">Remote Control Monkey</a>: <span>23:21:44</span></dt><dd>I will get in touch with them</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:22:13</span></dt><dd>another frame arrangement:</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:22:14</span></dt><dd>xxx<BR>
-xx<BR>
-xx</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:22:22</span></dt><dd>would look like number seven....</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:22:30</span></dt><dd>xxx</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:22:32</span></dt><dd>-xx</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:22:33</span></dt><dd>xx-</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:22:38</span></dt><dd>looks more like 7</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:22:47</span></dt><dd>mmm</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:23:09</span></dt><dd>last one is good!</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:23:28</span></dt><dd>ok. one more point resolved.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:23:34</span></dt><dd>:-)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:24:09</span></dt><dd>so it will be at 8pm european time?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:24:28</span></dt><dd>i think 9pm</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:24:33</span></dt><dd>9 is good</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:24:44</span></dt><dd>ok</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:24:45</span></dt><dd>since UTC doesnt take in account summer time</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:24:47</span></dt><dd>i think 9 i can make, i would like to be there</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:25:03</span></dt><dd>you're right, we are now at +2</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:25:19</span></dt><dd>or it should be 7 in the morning...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:26:34</span></dt><dd>we need to figure the logic of the 7X7 = 49 minutes</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:27:06</span></dt><dd>or we make it 7 minutes</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:27:22</span></dt><dd>7x7 is good for a jamsession</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:27:34</span></dt><dd>but we can do 7 x 7x1</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:28:20</span></dt><dd>and 49 min is a good duration to cook something.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:28:43</span></dt><dd>for cooking definitely</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:28:56</span></dt><dd>we can even eat then during the last 7 minutes</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:29:51</span></dt><dd>cooking is one layer - there must be other layers (cause i dont know a dish that requires constant action for 42 minutes... exceplt if we make several dishes - eating the last 7 is a must.)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:30:04</span></dt><dd>but i am not sure if i will manage to capture the videos, translate them into images, upload the images and cook at the same time...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:30:36</span></dt><dd>but 7 minutes looking at the water waiting to get boiling is very fascinating</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:30:52</span></dt><dd>especially when on 7 frames water is waiting to get boiling</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:31:10</span></dt><dd>conceptually, i agre...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:31:12</span></dt><dd>e</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:31:18</span></dt><dd>and 7 minutes cutting vegetables with a big knife can also be exciting</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:31:37</span></dt><dd>less conceptually, i also agree</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:31:49</span></dt><dd>more hollywood</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:32:29</span></dt><dd>but maybe we can add some elements</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:32:41</span></dt><dd>like passing objects from one frame to another</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:32:47</span></dt><dd>ok - but still - the last 7 minutes are eating - what about the first 6 segments of 7 minutes...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:32:47</span></dt><dd>while we are waiting for the food to get ready</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:33:24</span></dt><dd>mmm it will prove very difficult to cook and be coordinated</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:33:41</span></dt><dd>well, since i have many things to do for tomorrow (gonna be a busy day) i'm leaving you in this intense discussion. anyway the most important things are set. we will have to choseframes etc..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:33:51</span></dt><dd>i would also like it if the first 7 minutes is a presentation of each kitchen/person</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:33:52</span></dt><dd>a last thing:</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:34:32</span></dt><dd>i would like in general when the beginning explains for example where everyone is, because most of the time i don't know myself from where in the world the other webcamimages are coming</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:34:34</span></dt><dd>do we announce this worldwide or do we keep this as a "rehearsal", more private?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:34:52</span></dt><dd>i was thinking more as a jamsession for ourselves</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:35:11</span></dt><dd>but we could announce it on the website, no problem</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:35:22</span></dt><dd>exactly what i was thinking.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:35:30</span></dt><dd>me too, io think its a bit late to call for a worldwide audience in good conditions</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:35:42</span></dt><dd>ok</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:35:45</span></dt><dd>and btw what about the sound?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:35:49</span></dt><dd>ah yes</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:35:51</span></dt><dd>we can send the audience a photo of the food afterwards</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:35:57</span></dt><dd>our new tecnological discovery...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:36:03</span></dt><dd>i was just thinking about that, the sound...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:36:17</span></dt><dd>alejo just send a mail to the list about sound</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:36:41</span></dt><dd>(well not only sound)</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:36:57</span></dt><dd>in a certain way the sound makes most sense for a really public performance</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:37:14</span></dt><dd>when performing i was quite too busy to really listen to it..</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:37:52</span></dt><dd>and when cooking... i will not hear it except if a sound system is turned on full blast</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:38:14</span></dt><dd>true - let's forget about sound - altough i belive nathalie likes sound and have camera-webcam problems - if she wishes - and/or Nylon, let's see</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:38:23</span></dt><dd>yeah</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:38:30</span></dt><dd>that's true, but still it would be nice to hear the sounds from the other kitchens</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:38:48</span></dt><dd>maybe some of you can drop a summary of that discussion to the list?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:38:48</span></dt><dd>but let's focus on one item at the time</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:39:10</span></dt><dd>let's use this session to concentrate on synchronisation of the images</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:39:17</span></dt><dd>one one important tech detail: the uploaded images will be in PNG from now</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:39:44</span></dt><dd>everything must be png?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:40:06</span></dt><dd>and the size?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:40:29</span></dt><dd>would be better. 1 )it gives a smaller filesize. 2) it will be easyer to make it work in PD</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:40:52</span></dt><dd>size as usual, 192x144 px. named 0x.png to 9x.png</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:40:58</span></dt><dd>okay, no problem</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:41:19</span></dt><dd>bout sound, what are the alternatives to the mono-stream method?<BR>
</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:41:27</span></dt><dd>- multiple stream adresses? (seems mostly unelegant and confusing to have multiple audio-streams playing at the same time - and undemocraticaly bandwith demanding...)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:41:35</span></dt><dd>- one (or more) html frame that reads in succesion different mp3 files uploaded beforehand by the performers (in that case it would be "less live")?</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:41:54</span></dt><dd>one master sound patch could group several streams and re-broadcast them</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:41:57</span></dt><dd>i can be online again tomorrow evening, around the same time like now, to do some testing</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:42:13</span></dt><dd>from 9pm on</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:42:17</span></dt><dd>mmm i wondered if that was possible.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:42:31</span></dt><dd>aether, that sounds good</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:43:14</span></dt><dd>ok, not sure i can be online tomorrow. rather saturday morning</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:43:19</span></dt><dd>have a good night</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:43:37</span></dt><dd>saturday i will be offline all day, so i will jump directly into the performance at 9pm</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:43:49</span></dt><dd>you too - i can write a mail to the mailing list now announcing all this</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:43:51</span></dt><dd>i need to know all the instructions by tomorrow</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:44:20</span></dt><dd>we can start thinking about dishes right now...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:44:28</span></dt><dd>yes :-)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:44:38</span></dt><dd>cym, the first 7 minutes will be presentation, yes!</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:44:41</span></dt><dd>so maybe you chose your frame right now, cym?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:44:47</span></dt><dd>i am sure we will put a very interesting dish together until tomorrow afternoon</dd><dt class="local">aether9: <span>23:45:03</span></dt><dd>bye anyway</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:45:10</span></dt><dd>bye aether9</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:45:39</span></dt><dd>thom, yes i would like if the first 7 minutes is a presentation.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:45:47</span></dt><dd>me too!</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:46:20</span></dt><dd>maybe everyone can write their information (like location) on a piece of paper in the kitchen</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:46:37</span></dt><dd>make close ups of the different kitchens (or wherever they are cooking)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:46:58</span></dt><dd>and also include their personal information, whatever they would like to tell</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:47:14</span></dt><dd>yes - indicating location is a must</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:47:25</span></dt><dd>and the local time :-)</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:47:30</span></dt><dd>presentation of the people involved in the kitchen as well</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:47:46</span></dt><dd>aja, presentation of the assistents and the guests</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:47:56</span></dt><dd>the guests that will be eating</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:47:58</span></dt><dd>naturlich</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:48:28</span></dt><dd>do you speak dutch as well?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:48:49</span></dt><dd>nein</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:48:55</span></dt><dd>schade</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:49:30</span></dt><dd>okay, i have to finish one website until tomorrow, so i should really go back to work</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:49:33</span></dt><dd>growing up in geneva, german was mandatory - i hated it in school - aber jetzt habe ich lust deutsh zu sprechen!</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:49:48</span></dt><dd>wow, ok, good work and i'll write that mail now.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:49:51</span></dt><dd>ciao</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:49:52</span></dt><dd>naja, dann koennen wir uns mal auf deutsch unterhalten</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:50:04</span></dt><dd>aber vielleicht besser ein anderes mal</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:50:13</span></dt><dd>na ja</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:50:32</span></dt><dd>okay, i will try to answer your mail</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:50:38</span></dt><dd>will you send the chatlog?</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:50:54</span></dt><dd>i think i'll edit a best-off.</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:51:06</span></dt><dd>without the german comments..</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:51:30</span></dt><dd>... i'll attach the log maybe</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:51:36</span></dt><dd>vielleicht werde ich eines tages noch franzoesisch sprechen</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:51:53</span></dt><dd>i had it in school for 6 years, so i should speak really...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:51:57</span></dt><dd>aber es is verruckt dass voll zu lesen,,,</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:52:08</span></dt><dd>stimmt</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:52:56</span></dt><dd>okay, i will concentrate on that website now...</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://cymnet" title="cymnet">cym</a>: <span>23:53:05</span></dt><dd>good night!</dd><dt class="remote"><a href="callto://thom_edison" title="thom_edison">thom_edison</a>: <span>23:53:06</span></dt><dd>gdnite</dd><dd></dd><h3>2007-07-06</h3></dl><A NAME="end_of_document"></A></BODY></HTML>