Created on 2007-12-13 10:50:54.
2007-11-14
- boris: 14:14:14
- hello, t'es pas là?
- boris: 14:14:40
- par là...
- aether9: 14:40:07
- yep
- boris: 14:40:20
- hey
- boris: 14:40:41
- suis en train d'étudier un peu le cas kasparov - DB ...
- boris: 14:41:00
- quelques bons commentaires de la dernière partie, celle ou l'humanité perd:
- boris: 14:41:02
- Now, before we get into the match, I would like to run a couple
of minutes of scholarly discussions about parallel processing
and how far it has come.
--
Garry Kasparov, the world chess champion is playing a
computer, programmed to make 200 million chess moves a second.
And I believe the series is one win apiece and one draw
--
We have the
world champion with 2 1/2 points. We have the IBM chess
program, Deep Blue, with 2 1/2 points.
--
--
Welcome once again to game
six, the final game of the Kasparov vs. Deep Blue Rematch. I
don't know about you, but I'm excited, we're excited, the whole
world is excited. And no plug-pulling will happen today, I can
assure you. There's no tomorrow.
--
This is it. And Kasparov
has it seems been rattled by what is going on here. All of us
are amazed by how Deep Blue has played. The score is tied 1-1,
that is in wins, and three draws. So the winner today takes it
all home. And Kasparov today is Mother's Day, which I wish a
happy Mother's Day to you all. Happy Mother's Day. Kasparov's
mother Clara is here.
--
And about Kasparov's mother watching, there's got to
be some pressure on Mother's Day, Yaz, knowing that her son is
going into battle. And in addition to that pressure, Kasparov
has set this whole thing up as he's defending mankind. Mankind
against the ever-encroaching speed and complexity and problem
solving ability of the computer.
--
I would like to welcome those
over the WebTV and the Internet who are watching. We are in
the Equitable Building now, the auditorium.
--
- boris: 14:41:59
- > à partir d'un document .swf comme jinga en fabrique, tu as un truc (sinon snapz, mais on en arrive au même problème) pour avoir un format QT compatible?
- boris: 14:42:05
- > tu as trouvé des commentaires audio? sur le site d'ibm, j'ai trouvé des commentaires audio en format .iba , format apparement impossible à jouer aujourd'hui...
- boris: 14:42:43
- (mais je les retrouve pas aujourd'hui ces .iba de toute façon) - pour l'audio on devrait enregistrer une voix et la filrer à la HAL après.
- aether9: 14:42:53
- quicktime ouvre ce genre de fichiers flash, non?
- aether9: 14:43:35
- oui... ceci dit, pas besoin forcément de déjà créer tout ça, plutôt le mentionner dans les textes.....
- boris: 14:43:46
- heu - ah oui...
- aether9: 14:43:59
- je garderais mon temps de montage plutôt pour les vidéos aether à faire....
- boris: 14:43:59
- (piour qt...)
- boris: 14:44:00
- pour
- boris: 14:44:25
- ouais en effet - garder un temps plus long pour faire ne belle vidéo d'hommage à garry et db...
- boris: 14:44:49
- j'ai la première de l'atelier d'acteur demain, suis pas mal pris par ça. travaillerai donc sérieusement à du montage à partir de vendredi
- aether9: 14:45:05
- ne pas perdre trop de temps pour l'instant, l'objectif est de publier un texte résumé et quelques images aléchantes...
- aether9: 14:46:43
- nice!
2007-11-16
- boris: 20:11:58
- hi
- boris: 20:12:17
- cant figure out who to fucking connect to irc room...
- boris: 20:15:18
- ah mais apparement c'est juste que je suis le seul connecté... bon je vais me doucher - à toute
- boris: 20:38:01
- you on irc?
2007-11-18
- aether9: 21:57:36
- me voici
- boris: 21:57:45
- yo - 2 sec
- boris: 21:59:10
- ok
- boris: 21:59:18
- suis dans internet café donc pas d'audio
- aether9: 22:00:55
- oui, donc, suis en train de lire ton texte.
- boris: 22:01:17
- ah oui, c'est pas ordré , je commençais - y a des bons trucs dedans
- boris: 22:01:29
- commençais à adapter...
- boris: 22:01:35
- viens de voir le myspace - nice
- aether9: 22:01:58
- globalement, je ferais un peu moins grandiloquent.
- aether9: 22:02:09
- spécialement, je n'insterais pas sur le passé
- aether9: 22:02:28
- plutot un texte qui décrit simplement les buts/objectifs
- aether9: 22:02:39
- à dubai, tout ce développement est assez récent
- boris: 22:02:50
- un peu moins de bouffoneries, suis d'accord...
- aether9: 22:03:17
- et je vois ça pas comme une entreprise, plutot du jargon art-buisness donc
- aether9: 22:03:43
- on peut s'inspirer de ceci (un centre similaire au japon):
- aether9: 22:03:44
- http://www.ntticc.or.jp/About/introduction.html
- aether9: 22:03:57
- DUDAC wishes to encourage the dialogue between technology and the arts with a core theme of "communication," thereby building an affluent society for the future. Through such dialogue, it also aims to become a network that links artists and scientists worldwide, as well as a center for information exchange.
- aether9: 22:04:20
- ce genre de trucs... ça rend le hoax invérifiable...
- boris: 22:04:27
- ouaip
- aether9: 22:04:50
- alors que des dates et chiffres trop précis éveilleront des soupçons ;)
- boris: 22:06:17
- tu vois que des textes pour les projets "kasparov deepblue" et "opérateurs lumière" ou aussi des vidéos?
- aether9: 22:06:38
- plutot des "stills" évocateurs
- boris: 22:06:46
- pour kasparov deepblue je vais essayer de faire un petit montage minimaliste
- boris: 22:06:58
- pourquoi pas des stills en effet
- aether9: 22:08:04
- les bonnes images ne manquent pas, une recherche d'images google "kasparov deep blue" donne de très bons résultats
- aether9: 22:08:22
- http://archive.computerhistory.org/projects/chess/exhibit_layer/still-images/5-4b.Kasparov_vs_Deep_Blue.May-1997.CORBIS-NF1108205.lg.jpg
- aether9: 22:08:36
- et http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/images/4506VV1001.jpg
- boris: 22:08:37
- !!!
- aether9: 22:10:10
- vois aussi ceci: http://www.laibach.nsk.si/bach.htm
- aether9: 22:10:29
- perfo de laibach dédiée à bach...
- boris: 22:10:49
- tiens
- boris: 22:14:08
- http://images.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vibrant.com/images/kasparov.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vibrant.com/blog/ten-servers-that-changed-the-world/&h=156&w=233&sz=10&hl=en&start=112&tbnid=3RHk5HsQWpUZcM:&tbnh=73&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dkasparov%2Bdeep%2Bblue%26start%3D100%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
- aether9: 22:16:11
- ah oui, bon à savoir.. trouver un 32-node RS/6000 SP RISC system 10 ans plus tard est une gageure en effet. heureusement qu'on avait le soutien d'IBM...
- aether9: 22:18:13
- pour le texte de présentation DUDAC, un peu de blabla sur Dubai sera également bienvenu: http://www.dubaiinternetcity.com/why_dubai/
- aether9: 22:18:30
- quasiment adaptable tel quel
- boris: 22:19:23
- http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/%7Emloewen/Q7/scifi/airplane.html
- aether9: 22:19:25
- btw, est-ce que tu vois chloé ces prochains jours?
- boris: 22:19:55
- oui, demain soir je suppose. je sais qu'elle et laure ont un rdv de travail jeudi pour aether
- aether9: 22:20:58
- j'aurais un truc à lui demander, pour wikipedia: qu'elle enregistre "n3krozoft ltd" prononcé bien clairement, à l'américaine avec accent francais, en haute qualité..
- aether9: 22:21:37
- sur les pages d'écrivains russes p.ex il y a fréquemment un fichier son donnant la bonne prononciation...
- boris: 22:21:50
- prononcé "n3krozoft limited" donc?
- aether9: 22:22:00
- L.T.D. je pense...
- boris: 22:22:00
- lol
- boris: 22:22:06
- mmm
- aether9: 22:22:22
- ou peut-être limited ?
- boris: 22:22:35
- faut essayer les 2
- boris: 22:25:17
- serait-il bien d'enregistrer des séries de voix?
- boris: 22:25:22
- du même coup...
- aether9: 22:25:47
- pour?
- boris: 22:26:49
- je me demandais à haute voix si ça serait bien d'avoir quelques audio présentations ou warnings pour dudac, myspace ou n3krozoft
- boris: 22:27:03
- mais rien de bien folichon me vient là.
- boris: 22:27:49
- tu penses à ce son pour le dudac?
- boris: 22:28:26
- parce que Chloé revient à geneve le weekend prochain - elle pourrait prendre mic + cable - mais si y faut faire avant on peur s'arranger aussi
- aether9: 22:28:43
- non, du tout, c'est pour la page wikipedia de n3krozoft... rien d'urgent, juste un élément comique...
- boris: 22:29:12
- ok - alors laissons cela pour dans 2 semaines - c'est toi qui as le mic et un cable xlr?
- boris: 22:29:49
- tetris midi pas mal pour kasparov deepblue
- aether9: 22:30:28
- non, je n'ai pas le mic
- boris: 22:31:34
- il serait dans a malle?
- boris: 22:31:50
- la
- aether9: 22:32:15
- probablement dans les affaires, embarquées par marco et amy.. c'était un peu hectic le déménagement alors je n'ai pas eu le temps de fouiller
- boris: 22:32:44
- ok - je vais voir cela avec eux alors - il faudra voir pour le cable xlr aussi?
- aether9: 22:33:29
- oui, je pense que tout est dans une grande sacoche noire..
- boris: 22:33:49
- genre valise?
- aether9: 22:34:29
- oui, en plus mou
- boris: 22:34:46
- ok
- boris: 22:38:22
- idées pour images de présentation de la perfo des opérateurs-lumière?
- boris: 22:38:25
- http://www.mitre.org/about/photo_archives/sage_photo.html
- boris: 22:38:39
- outstanding high res imagery
- aether9: 22:40:29
- outstanding indeed
- boris: 22:55:56
- http://www.artdubai.ae/index2.html - le film - on dirait vamos a l'arteplaya 2
- boris: 22:56:11
- suis en train de l'enregistrer...
- boris: 22:57:10
- connect?
- boris: 22:57:28
- http://www.artdubai.ae/index2.html - le film - on dirait vamos a l'arteplaya 2 - http://www.artdubai.ae/index2.html - le film - on dirait vamos a l'arteplaya 2
- boris: 22:57:47
- quelques bonnes sequences
- aether9: 22:59:43
- oui, je l'ai aussi archivé, au cas ou...
- aether9: 23:03:22
- as-tu eu une idée de titre pour la perfo Deep Blue?
- boris: 23:03:38
- let's brainstorm
- aether9: 23:03:41
- comment on dit échec et mat en anglais?
- boris: 23:04:01
- chess mate
- boris: 23:04:08
- non
- aether9: 23:04:13
- d'ailleurs, la partie ne s'est pas finie par échec et mat, n'est pas, kasparov a abandonné il me semble
- boris: 23:04:17
- check mate
- boris: 23:04:47
- oui
- boris: 23:05:01
- apparement il a commis une connerie incompréhensible à son niveau en début de partie.
- aether9: 23:05:37
- est-ce qu'il y aurait un autre terme technique échiquéen approprié?
- boris: 23:05:37
- (pas une grosse, mais une infime connerie...) - il a continué à se battre et
- boris: 23:05:46
- après un moment l'infime est devenu implacablement un petit avantage pour l'ordi
- boris: 23:05:53
- que connerie?
- boris: 23:05:56
- mmm
- aether9: 23:06:25
- il existe un film intitulé: Game Over: Kasparov and the Machine , mais ce n'est pas terrible
- aether9: 23:07:15
- du genre GK MOVE: 8...Qe7
DB MOVE: 900.
GK MOVE: ...fxe6
DB MOVE: Bg6+.
GK MOVE: ...Kd8 - aether9: 23:07:28
- mais un peu plus imagé si possible..
- boris: 23:07:44
- oui en échecs après ces codes, si un coup est mauvais on écrit:
- boris: 23:07:50
- 8...Qe7 ?
- boris: 23:07:53
- si très mauvais:
- boris: 23:07:54
- 8...Qe7 ??
- boris: 23:08:10
- si interessant mais pas répértorié:
- boris: 23:08:14
- 8...Qe7 !?
- boris: 23:08:20
- si douteux mais à vérifier:
- boris: 23:08:22
- 8...Qe7 ?!
- boris: 23:08:30
- si bon:
- boris: 23:08:32
- 8...Qe7 !
- aether9: 23:08:38
- ok.. mais il faudrait vraiment trouver le mouvement clé...
- boris: 23:08:39
- si très très bon:
- boris: 23:08:41
- 8...Qe7 !!
- boris: 23:09:27
- ensuite il faut voir le nom de l'ouverture qu'a utilisé kasparov dans cette partie, attends
- boris: 23:09:49
- http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/reference/html/i.2.html
- aether9: 23:10:14
- "As early as move seven, Kasparov made a clear mistake allowing a sacrifice of a knight that is known to be very strong. "
- aether9: 23:10:47
- Move seven: 7. N1f3 h6
- boris: 23:11:02
- Antipositional
- boris: 23:11:29
- Antipositional
A move or a plan that is not in accordance with the principles of positional play. Antipositional is used to describe moves that are part of an incorrect plan rather than a mistake made when trying to follow a correct plan. Antipositional moves are often pawn moves, since pawns cannot move backwards to return to squares they have left. - boris: 23:11:37
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_terms
- boris: 23:13:47
- arry Kasparov is
not a Caro-Kann player. The Caro-Kann is an opening that is
very quiet, that is to say it's a very positional-based
opening. Tactics usually come much later in the game and it's
very often that in a Caro-Kann style of play, the whole game is
a strategic, positional game. I had hoped as you saw me, I
tried to make a prediction that Garry is going to play his
favorite Sicilian, c7-c5, which he didn't do. So I don't know
what Garry was expecting with the Caro-Kann. - boris: 23:13:59
- la partie en question est une "CaroKann"
- boris: 23:14:06
- Caro-Kann
- aether9: 23:15:03
- DB MOVE: 19 c4
- aether9: 23:15:10
- c'est le dernier mouvement de deep blue
- aether9: 23:15:24
- ça ressemble étrangement à 1904.cc
- boris: 23:15:31
- could be a title
- boris: 23:15:43
- mmm
- aether9: 23:16:08
- IBM computer Deep Blue has defeated the world champion Garry Kasparov in an absolutely stunning, stunning 19 mover!
- aether9: 23:16:22
- And Kasparov has just simply stormed away. We should say congratulations to Deep Blue and their programmers. (Audience applause.)
- aether9: 23:17:12
- What Garry saw was that after this move c4, remember what we were talking about, that overloaded bishop, how it would suddenly become vulnerable. If Bxb4 -- Bxc4 Qxc4, queen mate.
- boris: 23:17:20
- tu trouves cela où?
- aether9: 23:17:27
- http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/games/game6/html/move19b.shtml
- aether9: 23:20:25
- We are anticipating Qxf5 and after a move like /KPW*xf5 there's all kinds of problems.
- aether9: 23:20:42
- une idée de ce que ça veut dire, ce /KPW*xf5 ?
- boris: 23:20:50
- And already Fritz 4 is projecting a 3.66 advantage for white in this position, which Fritz 4 is just evaluating a huge material loss for black and no way for him to prevent the flood from coming in and washing those pieces away.
- boris: 23:20:50
- c'est terrible
- boris: 23:21:12
- (fritz est LE soft d'échecs, aujourd'hui on a fritz 9...)
- aether9: 23:21:29
- oui, c'est pas mal... mais ça nous donne pas de titre..
- boris: 23:22:34
- KPW (tu vois ça ou?)
- aether9: 23:22:44
- dans un commentaire, mouvement 18...
- aether9: 23:25:42
- And also I want to say that for the defender, the defender has to look at so many threats that it's much easier when you're playing against the computer to be on the attack than you are when you're on the defense
- aether9: 23:25:47
- because on the defense, you have to keep Des Moines mind -- keep in mind everything that's possible. Pieces swinging over, pieces coming up and down the board.
- boris: 23:25:49
- J'adoube
(from French) "I adjust". A player says "J'adoube" as the international signal that he intends to adjust the position of a piece on the board without being subject to the touched piece rule. - aether9: 23:26:04
- je pense que dans la perfo, kasparov est joué par un danseur...
- boris: 23:26:10
- qqch que DB peut pas faire... mais Kasparov oui...
- boris: 23:27:14
- un danseur japonais - butho
- aether9: 23:28:27
- plutot russe, non? ballets russes?
- boris: 23:29:04
- ou soudanais, ou tanzanien, de la terre de Lucy
- boris: 23:29:28
- mais russe pourqoi pas
- boris: 23:29:53
- je pensais à un type que j'ai vu jouer à berlin accompagné de cette musicienne allemande que tu aimes tant
- aether9: 23:30:07
- mais peut-etre qu'on ne précise pas pour l'instant..
- boris: 23:30:09
- il a joué dans le film de sokorov sur l'empereur japonais
- boris: 23:30:19
- je vais chercher
- boris: 23:30:26
- danseur aussi
- aether9: 23:30:44
- oui, mais attention pour les noms.. rien qui soit vérifiable comme faux ;)
- boris: 23:31:00
- KPW*xf5 - je sais pas, K c'est pour Knight - x f5 c'est qu'il mange le pion en f5
- boris: 23:31:05
- je sais...
- boris: 23:31:19
- c'est pour la réalité de la réalité
- boris: 23:35:11
- Is it possible that Kasparov has played incorrect theoretically?
YASSER SEIRAWAN: Yes, he has. He blunered. What he did is he transposed moves. - boris: 23:35:52
- je crois qu'il y a une faute de transcription - le mot clé serait "blundered" - to blunder - je check
- boris: 23:39:21
- (a blunder is...)
- boris: 23:39:21
- is a spectacularly bad decision or action, a mistake or error with detrimental consequences to the party that makes it. It is typically attributable to faulty perception: the result of not reading signs, or misinterpreting available information. Naturally many sensible decisions, which even in retrospect were carefully taken, may also prove disastrous mistakes.
The term blunder is often used to refer to military, diplomatic, political, social or business decisions. - boris: 23:40:01
- In chess, a blunder is a very bad move, often given the '?' or even '??' sign
- aether9: 23:40:54
- ici, un article commentant la partie d'échecs dans 2001... http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/chap5/five1.html
- boris: 23:41:04
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_famously_considered_great_blunders
- aether9: 23:41:51
- "In many recent human-machine matches, the mood has been decidedly pro-human and anti-computer. In the first encounter between the human world champion (Kasparov) and the computer world champion (Deep Thought, Deep Blue's predecessor) in 1989, there was definite hostility toward the computer. When Kasparov pulled out the victory, the audience breathed an audible sigh of relief. In gratitude for "saving human pride," onlookers gave Kasparov a standing ovation."
- aether9: 23:44:33
- The game in the screenplay is a real one played by two undistinguished players in Hamburg in 1913. Kubrick, a former Washington Square Park chess hustler and aficionado, selected a clever checkmate but was careful not to employ one too complex for viewers to grasp. He picked a position from a fairly obscure game -- one obscure enough not to appear in the 600,000-game database of Deep Blue. I eventually located the game after being directed to an article written by Grandmaster Larry Evans on January 12, 1990 (HAL's birthday).
- boris: 23:45:13
- !
- aether9: 23:45:48
- visiblement, cette performance de n3krozoft n'est pas uniquement basée sur la finale kasparov-deep blue..
- aether9: 23:46:53
- mais se réfère à tout cela: la partie de 1913 à Hambourg, celle du film, celle de1989, puis celles de 1995 et 1996
- aether9: 23:47:19
- Kasparov 9000
- boris: 23:47:28
- oui - c'est ou la référence à 1913?
- aether9: 23:47:31
- comme titre ?
- boris: 23:47:49
- Kasparov 9000
- aether9: 23:48:27
- toujours ce meme article: http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/Hal/chap5/five2.html
- boris: 23:49:22
- GARRY 9000
- boris: 23:49:25
- KASPAROV 9000
- boris: 23:49:40
- KASPAROV 9000 - pas mal du tout
- aether9: 23:50:33
- oui, ça n'a pas vraiment de sens mais ça me parait pas mal... le 9000 vient de HAL 9000 of course
- aether9: 23:50:53
- plus vendable que KPW*xf5 en tous cas
- boris: 23:50:54
- oui
- boris: 23:51:35
- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/kubrick.htm
- boris: 23:51:38
- At the age of 17, he was offered a job as an apprentice photographer for Look magazine.
During this time, Stanley was playing in chess tournaments at the Marshall and Manhattan Chess Clubs. He as also playing in the parks such as Washington Square in Greenwich and elsewhere for money as a chess hustler. He knew when to get a park chess table in the shade during the day and a table under the lights at night. He played chess for 12 hours a day, playing chess for quarters. He was friends with Grandmaster Larry Evans. Kubrick made about $20 a week hustling chess.
It was at the Marshall Chess Club that Kubrick met Alton Cook, a film critic for the New York Telegram and Sun. This got Kubrick interested in making movies and finding the right contacts. - boris: 23:52:50
- In 1956, he wrote the screenplay for The Killing (also called Bed of Fear), based on a novel (Clean Break) by Lionel White. This was his first movie with chess in it.
- aether9: 23:53:34
- ah, je me souviens pas de ça..
- boris: 23:53:50
- In 1962, he directed Lolita (1962). It was based on the 1955 book, Lolita, by Vladimir Nabokov (1899-1977), a chess player.
- boris: 23:54:14
- In 1930, he wrote Zashchita Luzhina (Luzhin's Defense), which later became a movie. It was about a chess grandmaster who later commits suicide.
- boris: 23:54:38
- Charlotte plays a game of chess with Humbert, but is a lousy player and loses her Queen. Lolita strolls in the living room in her nightgown as Humbert and Charlotte play chess. Charlotte says, "You're going to take my Queen!" He replies, "That is my intention." Lolita says "Good night" (not good knight) and kisses her mother and Humbert. Humbert then takes Charlotte's Queen in the next move and says, "It had to happen sometime."
- boris: 23:54:59
- bcp de trucs là...
- aether9: 23:55:37
- oui, mais je crois qu'on a assez d'éléments pour un résumé, n'en rajoutons pas..
- boris: 23:55:40
- http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/kubrick.htm
- boris: 23:55:46
- is a great web adress...
- boris: 23:55:58
- je dois aller, le café ferme.
- aether9: 23:56:16
- ok. quand finalise-t-on le truc?
- boris: 23:57:16
- et blackbox dbx
- boris: 23:57:20
- ensuite il y a les ope. lumière
- boris: 23:57:20
- kasparov 9000 je vais préparer quelques trucs d'ici demain soir (images et textes pour perfo)
- aether9: 23:57:45
- oui, je vais encore préparer des trucs pour ça.
- aether9: 23:57:50
- alors demain soir, 20h
- aether9: 23:57:51
- ?
- boris: 23:58:03
- (supreme connexion pronlems here.)
- aether9: 23:58:34
- i see
- boris: 23:58:50
- ok demain soir 20h?
- aether9: 23:58:59
- ok
- boris: 23:59:10
- tschuss
- aether9: 23:59:41
- ciao
2007-11-19
- boris: 20:06:21
- salut
- aether9: 20:06:52
- yeah
- boris: 20:07:20
- j'ai eu bcp de travail et de crasses aujourd'hui et j'ai pas pu travailler pour kasarov 9000 sauf dans la tete.
- aether9: 20:07:36
- ok. what happened?
- aether9: 20:07:40
- :(
- boris: 20:09:52
- crasses avec laure et je vis pas "chez moi" depuis quelques jours... je dois tout le temps me déplacer pour avoir de l'internet... boulot dur à gérer dans ces conditions pour ces trucs de pubs et l'atelier d'acteurs.
- boris: 20:10:05
- en plus je dois chercher un boulot alimentaire...
- boris: 20:10:12
- heureusement chloé est là...
- boris: 20:11:05
- bref là ce soir j'ai plus l'influx pour faire une longue session.
- boris: 20:11:25
- mais pour kasparov, en 2 mots:.
- aether9: 20:12:36
- oui?
- boris: 20:13:34
- j'imagine qu'à droite il y a la partie jouée rapidement avec la musique de tetris et à la fin, l'image de ces écrans avec garry se tenant la tete dans les mains. et sur la gauche de ce film, le texte sur une sorte de ballet multimédia
- boris: 20:14:11
- (quelques infos "techniques" mais surtout un texte sur l'événement)
- boris: 20:14:31
- pas contre j'ai pas pensé à comment integrer l'histoire
- boris: 20:14:37
- HAL surtout
- aether9: 20:15:07
- ok.. en fait j'imaginai un texte assez peu détaillé, disant en gros "le spectacle traite de..." sans entrer dans des détails scèniques...
- aether9: 20:15:29
- donc nos recherches actuelles sont amplement suffisantes
- aether9: 20:15:42
- je peux rassembler tout ceci en un petit texte de presse
- aether9: 20:15:56
- je t'enverrai demain je pense, pour que tu puisses voir avant envoi
- aether9: 20:16:11
- pour le truc des lumière, je ne suis pas ultra inspiré pour le moment...
- aether9: 20:16:35
- par contre je viens de faire un petit montage avec mes vidéos de webcam dont je suis assez satisfait
- aether9: 20:16:53
- ça pourrait assez crédiblement etre un fragment d'une grande installation video realtime
- aether9: 20:17:00
- avec pour titre: NULL+VOID
- boris: 20:17:02
- ok - je recevrai cela alors et t'enverrai le résultat à integrerau dudac
- boris: 20:17:38
- (dossier gary je veux dire - en français son nick c'est "l'ogre de Baku")
- boris: 20:18:02
- mais suis pas sur qu'il y ait un nick du genre en anglais
- aether9: 20:18:05
- authentic? :)
- aether9: 20:18:24
- the butcher from baku ...
- boris: 20:20:57
- "l'ogre de bakou" sur google...
- boris: 20:23:36
- en anglais il semble pas avoir de surnom
- boris: 20:29:07
- je vais te laisser. me réjouis du dudac. à demain.
- aether9: 20:29:59
- oui, a+ et tout de bon
- boris: 20:31:18
- thanks
2007-11-28
- aether9: 10:14:58
- (/&%/&çç%
- aether9: 10:15:04
- hello
- boris: 10:20:08
- hello - 3 minutes..
- boris: 10:43:54
- hello
- boris: 10:43:59
- suis là
- boris: 10:44:46
- donc tu veux envoyer l'annonce aujourd'hui?
- aether9: 10:44:54
- oui!
- aether9: 10:45:22
- je suis en train de rédiger encore une page sur l'exposition, mentionnant quelques pièces...
- boris: 10:45:25
- effectivement l'esai s'est avéré concluant
- boris: 10:45:33
- ok
- boris: 10:46:03
- Kubrik = kubrick (typo)
- aether9: 10:46:27
- sur l'avis d'anna, je pensais ne pas mettre finalement la vidéo de Kasparov9000, elle est un peu trop handmade...
- aether9: 10:46:39
- et l'image suffit probablement
- aether9: 10:47:01
- je corrice le kubrik
- boris: 10:47:46
- cette vidéo devrai être un peu travailée en effet pour conv^server l'impression d'ensemble.
- aether9: 10:48:23
- oui, voilà
- boris: 10:51:39
- je dois m'absenter 15 minutes - à toute
- aether9: 11:49:53
- voilà déjà le début:
- aether9: 11:49:57
- Dubai, November 28, 2007
///PRESS RELEASE///
N3krozoft Ltd Exhibition at DUDAC Draws 15,000 Emirati Visitors So Far
N3krozoft Ltd ’s DUDAC SHOW MEETS WITH GREAT SUCCESS
The exhibition "N3krozoft Ltd: 1904-2007", on view through 27 January 2008 at the Digital Art Centre in Dubai (DUDAC), has enjoyed extraordinary interest among Emirati art lovers since opening on 1st November.
This exhinition is the first institutional solo-exhibition of N3krozoft Ltd in the United Arab Emirates, as well as the first major survey since 1992 of the international art collective. Building upon a lineage of continuous projects reaching back to the early days of the computer age, The group has produced artworks in a variety of media, encompassing live visual performance, public art, and critique of software and its relationship to contemporary culture and politics.
This major survey provides an unprecedented opportunity to reassess their ambiguous work, which is caracterised by its obsessive subject matter and experimental approach to media and techniques. It also features a number of new works made specially for the exhibition. - boris: 11:50:31
- ok je lis
- aether9: 11:51:00
- tout le texte est du copier-collé, évidemment
- aether9: 11:52:49
- auss, je suis en train de progresser sur cette page:
- aether9: 11:52:50
- http://dudac.org/en/current01.php
- boris: 11:55:05
- overall - great
- boris: 11:55:14
- a little things that bug me personnaly:
- boris: 11:55:26
- lineage
- boris: 11:55:36
- (unclear for lot of peaople)
- boris: 11:55:42
- unprecedented opportunity
- boris: 11:56:04
- (just me, a little too much ;-)
- boris: 11:56:12
- software critique
- boris: 11:56:15
- great formula
- boris: 11:56:21
- or category
- boris: 11:56:46
- but don't make changes to this, its fine
- aether9: 11:57:48
- lineage -> le contexte permet de comprendre.. unprecedented opportunity = it's dubai..
- boris: 11:57:58
- right
- boris: 11:58:02
- his last moments flicker on a transparent screen.
- boris: 11:58:14
- (transparent : i like transluscent
- aether9: 11:58:24
- oui, je viens de faire le changement
- aether9: 11:58:39
- recharge la page
- aether9: 11:59:10
- peux-tu trouver un autre titre de pièce "classique" n3krozoftienne ?
- aether9: 11:59:18
- cf. #3
- boris: 11:59:23
- ok
- boris: 12:00:04
- h3x pourrait apparaitre
- boris: 12:00:49
- spassiba bolchoï
- boris: 12:02:23
- typo: In the last secion of the exhibition
- boris: 12:02:26
- section
- boris: 12:05:42
- "kernel panik" could also be the name of some multimedia piece
- aether9: 12:12:14
- je viens d'uploader une nouvelle version
- boris: 12:13:56
- Baikonur
- boris: 12:14:06
- Baïkonnur je crois
- boris: 12:14:14
- and other rare items from the N3krozoft Archive.
- boris: 12:14:24
- and other original items from the N3krozoft Archive.
- aether9: 12:14:46
- yep
- boris: 12:15:26
- comme ça , ça donne très envie
- aether9: 12:15:27
- baïkonur c'est en français...
- boris: 12:15:34
- a oui...
- aether9: 12:15:48
- LA référence: http://www.russianspaceweb.com/baikonur.html
- boris: 12:16:01
- mm
- aether9: 12:16:34
- j'évite de mentionner le kazakhstan, un certain public pourrait croire que nous faisons allusion à borat....
- boris: 12:17:00
- nice page indeed
- boris: 12:17:43
- la photo de contact us est mesmerisinge
- boris: 12:17:58
- partners
- boris: 12:18:04
- tu as developpé qqch?
- aether9: 12:18:19
- partners... reste à faire..
- aether9: 12:18:45
- la boite de souscription à la mailing-liste fonctionne, par contre
- aether9: 12:19:43
- la photo de la page contact est une photo du kit de presse de dubai internet city... légèrement photoshopée
- boris: 12:19:50
- page blackbox:dbx
- boris: 12:19:55
- typo: He delves into a state of paranoia,
- boris: 12:20:12
- dvelves or dwelves il me semble
- aether9: 12:20:21
- non, delve est juste
- aether9: 12:20:29
- = plonge
- boris: 12:20:46
- ah oui
- aether9: 12:20:48
- par contre je l'utilise aussi sur la page current01..
- aether9: 12:20:57
- une variante serait bienvenue
- boris: 12:21:43
- he plunges
- aether9: 12:23:00
- mm, j'aime moins ;)
- boris: 12:23:27
- he sinks
- aether9: 12:23:35
- he drifts ?
- aether9: 12:23:56
- qu'en dis-tu?
- boris: 12:23:57
- he indulges himself
- boris: 12:24:08
- he drifts - c'est bon aussi
- aether9: 12:24:13
- adjugé
- boris: 12:24:43
- j'ai vu répétition de unprecedented quelquepart aussi
- aether9: 12:25:32
- est-ce vraiment un problème? ;)
- boris: 12:25:35
- peut-être je me trompe, je retrouve pas
- aether9: 12:26:12
- bon, je crois que le site est ok.. reste à finir le texte du mailin
- aether9: 12:26:15
- g
- aether9: 12:26:58
- que faut-il y mentionner? novi sad of course.. supported by sitemapping...
- boris: 12:38:02
- tu veux ajouter cela comment?
- boris: 12:38:11
- "related: aether9 etc"
- boris: 12:38:12
- ?
- boris: 12:38:36
- après le texte que tu m'as envoyé, inviter à visiter le site
- boris: 12:38:43
- puis "related"
- boris: 12:39:12
- les sites: dudac.org et n3krozoft.com
- aether9: 12:40:32
- je pense annoncer les perfors Blackbox et Kasparov, puis Aether9 (ou n3krozoft participe), ansi qu'une présentation de travaux n3krozoft que je vais faire à genève le 13 déc.
- boris: 12:43:08
- ok - c'est dans quel cadre cette présentation?
- aether9: 12:43:49
- HEAD
- boris: 12:43:58
- ok
- aether9: 12:44:23
- je ferai en sorte que ça sonne assez corporate...
- boris: 12:45:19
- je vais bientôt devoir partir travailler et il me reste des trucs à faire sur mon ordi pendant la demi-heure suivante. donc je suis là mais pas très actif.
- aether9: 12:47:25
- ok, je pense que tout est bon...
- boris: 12:48:13
- concernant la mailing list, comme d'hab j'aimerais y ajouter des nouveaux contacts - possible dans l'immédiat?
- aether9: 12:50:55
- oui, envoie-moi
- aether9: 12:51:35
- j'ai un gros dossier de nouveaux contacts que je passe à l'extracteur avant chaque envoi...
- boris: 12:53:24
- donc pas besoin de les envoyer formatées spécialement?
- boris: 12:53:35
- ces adresses'
- aether9: 12:53:45
- non, le programme extracteur s'en charge...
- aether9: 12:54:31
- je peux te l'envoyer si jamais, très pratique et le site a disparu du web...
- boris: 12:55:18
- volontiers
- boris: 13:00:17
- je travaille pour un gros galleriste ici - je l'aide à migrer sa boite mail d'entourage vers mail.app et... j'ai ces 10 000 contacts...
- boris: 13:00:25
- mais il faut que je voie un peu cela avant...
- aether9: 13:03:38
- 10'000 ... il a du trafiquer avec d'autres galleries pour en avoir autant ;)
- boris: 13:03:49
- il est très organisé...
- boris: 13:04:20
- ya meme une catégorie presse suisse...
- aether9: 13:04:31
- magnifique
- boris: 13:05:17
- Gabriel.Tortella@edipresse.ch, f.jaunin@freesurf.ch, Michel.Caspary@edipresse.ch, pascal.richard@nikon.ch
- boris: 13:05:32
- pas très touffue...
- aether9: 13:05:34
- c'est tout ?!
- boris: 13:05:41
- ouais
- boris: 13:05:42
- mouais
- boris: 13:25:17
- ciao j'y vais, bon travail - à tout bientot !
- aether9: 13:25:54
- oui, a+
- aether9: 13:27:08
- ah, est-ce que j'attends encore des adresses de ta part, ou est-ce que j'envoie?
2007-12-10
- boris: 22:03:11
- yo
- boris: 22:03:19
- yoyo
- aether9: 22:04:11
- hey
- boris: 22:04:24
- commencons une conférence
- aether9: 22:05:55
- welcome all
- boris: 22:06:51
- hi
- Nylon: 22:07:01
- hello all...from NYC
- fe2cruz: 22:07:09
- hi
- laure.dit: 22:07:18
- hi
- laure.dit: 22:08:16
- is paula coming too ?
- boris: 22:08:20
- nice weather here in Dubai!
- boris: 22:08:52
- so next saturday sounds quite exciting!!!
- boris: 22:09:05
- thrilling
- boris: 22:09:08
- enthralling
- laure.dit: 22:09:09
- its so rainy in brussels, i envy u boris
- fe2cruz: 22:10:04
- paula's not online so far
- Nylon: 22:10:12
- My co-pilot isn't here yet. Dubai seems dreamlike.The agenda of topic is? who does what? when is a run through?
- fe2cruz: 22:10:27
- don't see cym either
- Nylon: 22:10:31
- Be right back....delivery downstairs....
- boris: 22:10:32
- aether, can you ad nathalie fougeras?
- laure.dit: 22:10:41
- so we are not going to rehearse now, just get things all set. when would be the general rehearsal ?
- ana-lisa: 22:10:46
- who is taking part to the performance
- ana-lisa: 22:10:48
- ?
- laure.dit: 22:11:19
- brussels, la , geneva, colombia for frames
- boris: 22:11:24
- i understand we need 6 performers ideally - is that number korrekt?
- laure.dit: 22:11:24
- nyc for sound
- boris: 22:11:43
- 6 performers + sound
- ana-lisa: 22:11:47
- brussels coud have at least 2 frames
- laure.dit: 22:11:50
- ideally yes
- fe2cruz: 22:11:55
- i'm workin on my frames now. if i can't get it i'll do it with a friend who's got a mac
- laure.dit: 22:12:30
- brussels can take care of room place frame, and adjust and take care of the text
- laure.dit: 22:12:55
- sorry for my english
- boris: 22:13:03
- 2 text frames + 4 image frames
- aether9: 22:13:15
- i'm ready to do any of the frames as needed
- aether9: 22:13:25
- and one great news:
- laure.dit: 22:13:30
- nath alie are you available on saturday ?
- aether9: 22:13:36
- i just designed an interactive text box
- boris: 22:13:44
- here in brussels, i propose that one unit take care of one of the text frame - the other unit can take care of 1 image frame
- ana-lisa: 22:13:51
- what does it mean, manuel?
- boris: 22:14:10
- INTERACTIVE TEXT BOX -
- boris: 22:14:11
- public feedback apparatus
- boris: 22:14:17
- hit at the hierarchy of mass communication
- boris: 22:14:19
- YES!!!
- aether9: 22:14:21
- yes, it's at http://1904.cc/~aether/html/mainframe.html
- ana-lisa: 22:14:24
- no, the unit who takes care of the text manage the 2 frames of text
- Nylon: 22:14:37
- could the text me handewriten where we'd see a moving hand or is it set for a character generator?
- aether9: 22:14:46
- the colors, font, etc.. can still be subject to modification
- fe2cruz: 22:14:50
- i don't see nath alie online yet. what's the live element gonna be like in dubai?
- Nylon: 22:15:08
- ah...OK ...character generated then
- laure.dit: 22:15:20
- ok boris
- laure.dit: 22:15:36
- ok chloé
- boris: 22:16:07
- dubai is a hoax
- ana-lisa: 22:16:22
- ok for a character generated text
- Nylon: 22:16:45
- which languages/
- fe2cruz: 22:16:47
- i don't see the text box yet
- aether9: 22:17:16
- chris, it's here
- aether9: 22:17:17
- http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php
- fe2cruz: 22:17:37
- oh two differnt pages
- aether9: 22:17:44
- if you opened the live page before, you might need to refresh the browser's cache...
- boris: 22:17:52
- ok so you're working on it manu?
- laure.dit: 22:18:05
- its fun manu
- fe2cruz: 22:18:27
- SWEEEEEEET
- aether9: 22:18:30
- it's a possible way for net.audience reaction..
- aether9: 22:19:02
- all what is typed is stored in a text file.. http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/db.txt
- fe2cruz: 22:19:12
- there can be an applause now
- cym: 22:19:53
- great :-)
- ana-lisa: 22:20:34
- so could you have 2 frames like that?
- ana-lisa: 22:20:54
- in order to have the text directly uploaded like that?
- aether9: 22:21:06
- you mean for the english/french/xxx text?
- ana-lisa: 22:21:24
- can we change the color of the background and the size of the letters?
- ana-lisa: 22:21:33
- yes, thats what I mean
- Nylon: 22:22:11
- are we going with monochrome blk wht greys?
- laure.dit: 22:22:19
- ok, since F face should only be visible in the third act and in frame 5, i suggest that all the F wear a black hood sweater
- aether9: 22:22:31
- cloé: yes, possible.. we could also have a set of such windows where the "input box" would be in another page (only for the performers)
- laure.dit: 22:22:44
- yes black and white or very lightly colored
- ana-lisa: 22:23:07
- great manuel!
- laure.dit: 22:23:15
- that would be very good (chloé manu)
- Nylon: 22:23:39
- ....a water spritzer bottle so that the child costume and windows appear wet & support the sound of rain.......
- cym: 22:23:42
- maybe there should be one textframe only with input from performers to announce things and one for audience to type
- ana-lisa: 22:23:46
- I wish it is either very colored (a colection of monochromes), or black and white
- boris: 22:23:55
- so then we need one person in charge of the text (we don't need 2 persons)
- laure.dit: 22:23:58
- window, pallet, and door should always be kind of back to camera
- ana-lisa: 22:24:15
- the "slightly colored" seemes too difficult to manage.
- laure.dit: 22:24:26
- no its effects
- ana-lisa: 22:24:29
- each "slightly colored will be different...
- laure.dit: 22:24:43
- on the patch
- laure.dit: 22:24:50
- but maybe youre right
- ana-lisa: 22:24:54
- difficult to say without a try
- ana-lisa: 22:25:07
- maybe we can choose on the rehearsal day
- laure.dit: 22:25:08
- black and wight would be smarter
- laure.dit: 22:25:13
- true
- ana-lisa: 22:25:26
- can we agree on a rehearsal day?
- ana-lisa: 22:25:43
- I'd like thursady afternoon...
- aether9: 22:25:48
- i'm available all week except thursday / Jeudi evening
- aether9: 22:25:58
- from 5 on.
- boris: 22:26:04
- i propose friday afternoon or evening
- laure.dit: 22:26:10
- so depending on peoples interior who wants to be with the stool, the door the pallet and the window ??????
- ana-lisa: 22:26:14
- I have troubles with evenings...
- ana-lisa: 22:27:01
- except if we agree on midnight.
- ana-lisa: 22:27:59
- Laure, I would like to upload the text.
- boris: 22:28:39
- so chloé will upload the text from brussels. i would love to do the pallet!
- laure.dit: 22:28:51
- im very busy all week, b and c should you take care of the acting and image, and ill take care of the text ?
- laure.dit: 22:29:03
- sorry just read your message
- laure.dit: 22:29:41
- boris dont you want to be in frame 5 ?
- laure.dit: 22:29:52
- with the cassette ?
- laure.dit: 22:31:05
- rehearsal time, friday early evening ?
- laure.dit: 22:31:13
- brxl time
- aether9: 22:31:29
- ok, but we certainly need more than one rehearsal.
- aether9: 22:31:50
- if we could also rehearse on wednesday already, that would be not bad
- aether9: 22:32:03
- there are quite a lot of parameters to control...
- ana-lisa: 22:32:09
- I have trouble with friday evening
- ana-lisa: 22:32:19
- I am in Paris for job opportunities
- aether9: 22:32:34
- so which time, on friday?
- laure.dit: 22:32:41
- wednesday midnght ?
- ana-lisa: 22:32:54
- I like friday, but is midnight a possibility?
- fe2cruz: 22:32:59
- wednesday & friday my vote
- ana-lisa: 22:33:07
- boris, laure and I can't do it before
- laure.dit: 22:33:15
- good at least we agree on the day
- ana-lisa: 22:33:19
- bxl time...
- laure.dit: 22:33:23
- paula do you follow ?
- laure.dit: 22:33:46
- wednesday and friday midnight
- fe2cruz: 22:33:48
- i'll stay online and forward her the info when she pops back on
- ana-lisa: 22:33:53
- wdnesday, midnight. OK
- laure.dit: 22:33:58
- thanks chris
- ana-lisa: 22:34:01
- OK laure
- cym: 22:34:02
- wednesday would be good
- ana-lisa: 22:34:20
- and we rehearse one more time on saturday, early evening?
- Nylon: 22:34:21
- all these times & days are ok for me as they are late afternoon here
- boris: 22:34:29
- i'm available:
tuesday: from midnight on
wednesday: morning, afternoon and from midnight on
thursday: morning, between 5 to 8 and from midnight on
friday: all the time
saturday: all the time - ana-lisa: 22:34:35
- also for cym to get ready for the real transmission?
- fe2cruz: 22:34:54
- do we know whose assigned to which frames?
- ana-lisa: 22:35:08
- no, not yet chris
- cym: 22:35:19
- on friday and saturday i can probably not see the rehearsal, only on wednesday
- laure.dit: 22:35:32
- so wednesday midnight, friday midnight, and saturday 8 pm
- ana-lisa: 22:35:34
- ok, this allready good
- boris: 22:35:41
- ok
- ana-lisa: 22:35:49
- is saturday 8pm allright for everybody?
- fe2cruz: 22:36:05
- yes all bxl time right
- boris: 22:36:10
- ok
- ana-lisa: 22:36:11
- right
- Nylon: 22:36:25
- OK 8PM bxl time sat
- aether9: 22:36:37
- ok for me, wed + fri midnight as well
- cym: 22:36:38
- i don't know about the place in novi sad where the performance will be, but i think that they use it for other presentations before
- ana-lisa: 22:37:32
- I am not sure for friday night...
- fe2cruz: 22:37:41
- have you tested the internet connection there cym?
- cym: 22:37:49
- i am not there
- ana-lisa: 22:37:53
- but if I am doing the text, it is not so bad
- cym: 22:38:05
- i will go there on friday
- laure.dit: 22:38:05
- yes
- Nylon: 22:38:07
- 23:15 | LIVE
Screening room 2
Projekciona sala.....this is the room listed - boris: 22:38:12
- judy - you'll pre-record your voice, right?
- Nylon: 22:38:45
- no I will do the vox live and mix the rain and music via Abelton Live
- cym: 22:38:47
- they have a full programm, so i think there are other screenings before us on saturday evening in the same room
- fe2cruz: 22:39:17
- that's cool we're almost plug&play now anyway
- ana-lisa: 22:39:34
- can we do a check? It is necessary to know when... maybe saturday morning?
- cym: 22:39:43
- check what?
- ana-lisa: 22:39:52
- nice that you do everything live, Judy
- boris: 22:40:08
- Judy: ok. i would like to fool around with beethoven's "ghost trio" later tonite - i'll post the resusts tommorow morning - i dont care if we don't use it :-)
- Nylon: 22:40:12
- I is fun and I have done a lot of Vox over
- ana-lisa: 22:40:18
- check if it works in the screening place
- aether9: 22:40:20
- cym, the room appears to be used from 19:15 on saturday, not earlier.
- boris: 22:40:25
- faint voice... grrr
- fe2cruz: 22:40:42
- judy do you have stuff to mix for preshow and post show?
- Nylon: 22:40:52
- Great....I wanted to dub it and play with it......
- cym: 22:41:17
- so i will check the setup before 19:00
- Nylon: 22:41:34
- I adore Becket and gre up with the 'vox' he refers to
- ana-lisa: 22:41:38
- yes, let's do it at 7pm
- ana-lisa: 22:41:52
- rehearsal 5 pm.
- boris: 22:42:02
- so far we have the following frames:
> yorba linda
> brussels
> geneva
we still need 3 frames - fe2cruz: 22:42:29
- 6 non txt visual?
- boris: 22:43:01
- we need 1 more visual: paula?
- Nylon: 22:43:03
- what is going on with the dust frames.....the greys....what is in those frames exactly?
- boris: 22:43:20
- 1 of these frames will be users feedback
- fe2cruz: 22:43:26
- so just 4 visual total?
- boris: 22:43:29
- 2 grays will be there
- laure.dit: 22:43:36
- no boris we must have 4 active frames and thats what we have, two other are text, and the three of below are shades of grey
- boris: 22:43:36
- 4 visual total + 2 text
- laure.dit: 22:43:56
- and dust
- boris: 22:43:57
- so where's the audience feedback box?
- Nylon: 22:44:05
- can the greys be vid so there is subtle movement?
- laure.dit: 22:44:16
- we can put it in the greys
- laure.dit: 22:44:29
- there will be judy
- fe2cruz: 22:44:30
- the txt shoutbox is a test in its own webpage still
- fe2cruz: 22:44:49
- http://1904.cc/aether/shoutbox/index.php
- aether9: 22:44:56
- one person could be in charge of doing "very nice" greys...
- aether9: 22:45:08
- dusty floors etc
- laure.dit: 22:45:50
- can we accredit fr2, 4, , 5, 6 ?
- laure.dit: 22:46:28
- please
- fe2cruz: 22:46:36
- i'll take whatever frame you want me to be
- aether9: 22:46:51
- i'd do the window, for instance (fr 2)
- Nylon: 22:46:57
- I want to be clear....I am not currently set up to be seen only heard. OK?
- boris: 22:47:08
- yes!
- boris: 22:47:21
- something was unclear - but you'll be heard only.
- Nylon: 22:47:36
- OK
- boris: 22:48:34
- i'll gladly do frame 4 (the pallet) or 5 (the sitting dude)
- fe2cruz: 22:48:38
- well maybe I should get the easiest active frame just incase i have technical issues
- laure.dit: 22:48:59
- well chris then maybe take the window
- aether9: 22:49:56
- either the window, or some artistic grey shapes..
- ana-lisa: 22:50:22
- we need 4 performers manuel.
- laure.dit: 22:50:25
- are we sure paulas participating ?
- ana-lisa: 22:50:29
- you should do the door
- boris: 22:50:41
- she said she wishes too.
- ana-lisa: 22:50:44
- with the corridor stuff that is a little bit more complicated
- aether9: 22:50:50
- paula wrote me she wants to participate.
- boris: 22:50:53
- so we must assume paula participates.
- aether9: 22:51:02
- maybe she could also provide the boy ?
- ana-lisa: 22:51:08
- and does the door. pk
- ana-lisa: 22:51:10
- ok
- Nylon: 22:51:24
- Chris and I found the time lag to be 6 sec. on sound last night. I have sung live through a n old space station before so I don't expect a problem once we have the flow of the action
- ana-lisa: 22:51:29
- of course, if she does the door she provides the boy
- fe2cruz: 22:51:35
- paula will be here later. i'm sure.
- laure.dit: 22:51:50
- if its too complicate to get the boy or the shot of a corridor, in order to be effective, theses images could be pre-recorded
- boris: 22:52:00
- she akways has kids in her frames running behind klike on tarkovsky's space ship
- boris: 22:52:03
- always
- ana-lisa: 22:52:08
- yes,b ut still...
- ana-lisa: 22:52:50
- ok:
- fe2cruz: 22:52:55
- is it ok if i get horses to run behind me?
- ana-lisa: 22:53:05
- paula: frame 6
- ana-lisa: 22:53:10
- boris frame 5
- ana-lisa: 22:53:17
- chris frame 2
- boris: 22:53:18
- camels please
- ana-lisa: 22:53:21
- me frame 1 and 3
- ana-lisa: 22:53:35
- laure frame 4?
- laure.dit: 22:53:42
- perfect
- ana-lisa: 22:53:46
- manuel ok: frame 4
- laure.dit: 22:53:57
- i thought i was filming boris
- laure.dit: 22:53:59
- ?!
- ana-lisa: 22:54:00
- Laure, you do the frame 5 with boris
- ana-lisa: 22:54:09
- rright
- boris: 22:54:12
- laure and me: frame 5.
- laure.dit: 22:55:24
- do u people agree with the black hood, in order to make clearer the hide of the face ?
- aether9: 22:55:46
- ok so... should i do frame 4? could also do frame 5 if boris wants the pallett..
- aether9: 22:56:01
- black hood: that's exactly what i was thinking
- fe2cruz: 22:56:02
- as opposed to a vail or hankerchief?
- laure.dit: 22:56:12
- boris ? do you want to change ?
- ana-lisa: 22:56:14
- chloe: frame 1 & 3
chris: frame 2
Manuel: frame 4
Boris: frame 5
Paula (+ kid) : frame6
frame 7 - 8 : gray (who's taking care opf this?)
frame 9: spectator reaction - laure.dit: 22:56:25
- good lisa
- aether9: 22:57:08
- any more ideas regarding the "look" of the caracter , clothing...
- aether9: 22:57:10
- ?
- fe2cruz: 22:57:17
- we could just prerecord some greys right, and let them run autopilot?
- boris: 22:57:20
- well i have a pallet at home, so why not, sure!
- laure.dit: 22:57:32
- yes chris
- ana-lisa: 22:57:38
- the character is weraing a long black coat
- laure.dit: 22:57:53
- boris youre in FRAME 5
- fe2cruz: 22:58:00
- should windowboy2 wear anything in particular?
- laure.dit: 22:58:27
- window boy is F, and wears a black hood
- ana-lisa: 22:58:48
- the same
- laure.dit: 22:58:52
- F is one person, demultplicated in 4 spaces
- laure.dit: 22:59:10
- of one same room
- aether9: 22:59:12
- yes, obviously the caracter should look as similar as possible
- fe2cruz: 22:59:51
- black hood, lets all have as many coats during the rehersal available to try to match.
- aether9: 23:00:19
- while reading the text, i had an image in mind of a photo of Georges Demenÿ, assistant to Marey (inventor of "chronophotography")
- laure.dit: 23:00:35
- yeah... but lets concentrate on the hood
- aether9: 23:00:46
- where he's wearing an all black costume to record movements
- aether9: 23:00:59
- there is a very bad version of that picture here:
- laure.dit: 23:01:03
- interesting
- aether9: 23:01:07
- http://amif.club.fr/francais/mag/marey/Image10.jpg
- laure.dit: 23:01:30
- nice, very nice
- aether9: 23:01:47
- will try to find the original photo and send it to you
- fe2cruz: 23:02:01
- like a beekeeper in a catsuit
- boris: 23:03:29
- so all black with black hood?
- fe2cruz: 23:03:35
- oh yeah besides the clothes what mandetory props are needed?
- laure.dit: 23:03:36
- yes
- laure.dit: 23:03:52
- mandetory props, whats that ?
- aether9: 23:04:11
- for your frame, chris: none ;)
- laure.dit: 23:04:24
- mandetory props, whats that ?
- boris: 23:04:26
- props = accessoires
- Nylon: 23:04:27
- Costume wet windows wet..spray with water.....act 3 need a spay bottle
- fe2cruz: 23:04:30
- cassette, stool
- fe2cruz: 23:04:40
- mirror
- fe2cruz: 23:05:05
- just anything else we should bring to the rehesal to be prepared
- Nylon: 23:05:51
- thing to controal the light so it has no origin
- Nylon: 23:06:03
- deflectors
- boris: 23:06:26
- diffuse light, ok.
- laure.dit: 23:06:48
- these are more or less details that we will have to adjust on wednesday
- boris: 23:06:49
- no shadows?
- fe2cruz: 23:06:58
- but bright even light all over so its easy right?
- laure.dit: 23:07:02
- if possible no
- aether9: 23:07:43
- bright light, but you need to soften it so there are no sharp shadows..
- fe2cruz: 23:08:13
- we can adjust the contrast levels if we have issue though right?
- aether9: 23:08:28
- actually it's great if chris makes the window part, since he will have an early california afternoon, while novi sad is in deep night and fog..
- fe2cruz: 23:08:58
- might be cloudy or rainy dark afternoon here though
- boris: 23:09:02
- question: a "hood" - it covers the face (leaving holes for eyes and mouth) or not?
- fe2cruz: 23:09:31
- yeah are we talkin hoodie or mask?
- Nylon: 23:09:59
- at one last moment the face is seen in act 3 no......so it should be a domino style hood
- laure.dit: 23:10:09
- judy im not so sure about "ghost given" for the title? should we keep ghost trio in regard to the music, or ghost quattro for the 4 acting frames, or ghost nano, for all the frames ? what do you all think ?
- Nylon: 23:10:25
- fine....just fooling around
- Nylon: 23:10:44
- I don't love nanao
- boris: 23:10:47
- domino style - waza?
- boris: 23:11:04
- ghost unforgiven
- Nylon: 23:11:05
- venice....carnival stylee
- boris: 23:11:13
- aha.
- boris: 23:11:14
- ok
- fe2cruz: 23:11:47
- ghost in dutch is spook!
- Nylon: 23:11:58
- wow...good
- laure.dit: 23:12:01
- the face should not be completely hidden, it should stay in the shadow of the hood
- laure.dit: 23:12:10
- whats ghost in serbian ?
- boris: 23:13:27
- Judy - what style do you mean? --> http://images.google.be/images?q=mask%20venice&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
- ana-lisa: 23:13:32
- I suggest a hat that is making a shadow on the face
- fe2cruz: 23:13:44
- duh, duša, prikaza
- fe2cruz: 23:13:51
- http://www.stars21.com/translator/english_to_serbian.html
- ana-lisa: 23:13:58
- no mask. it is beckett, minimalist.
- cym: 23:14:09
- duh is good, it fits in three frames :-)
- ana-lisa: 23:14:41
- duh trio
- ana-lisa: 23:14:46
- ?
- boris: 23:14:53
- naaa sounds bad in latin
- fe2cruz: 23:15:05
- duy rio yo
- aether9: 23:15:07
- i suggest a basic streetware hood, as we will never manage to have a similar hat...
- fe2cruz: 23:15:12
- duh trio yo
- fe2cruz: 23:15:23
- ghost trio is fine with me
- laure.dit: 23:15:25
- yes i agree with aether
- cym: 23:15:33
- ghost trio is better
- fe2cruz: 23:15:49
- wutang hoodie it is!
- ana-lisa: 23:15:50
- a agree with aether and chris
- fe2cruz: 23:17:26
- http://www.netweed.com/prohiphop/graf/wutanglogo2.jpg
- aether9: 23:17:49
- beyond the hood, we could try to stick to thight black clothing
- fe2cruz: 23:18:43
- i think i can manage all black pants and shirt that fit fairly tight but nothing skin tight
- boris: 23:19:19
- fantomas
- ana-lisa: 23:19:27
- I like the wu tang style
- Nylon: 23:19:38
- nothing like ballet.......
- ana-lisa: 23:19:39
- sweater with hood
- ana-lisa: 23:19:43
- black pant
- ana-lisa: 23:19:55
- easy to find
- laure.dit: 23:20:06
- doesent matter if its not too tight, i mean its symbolic, everybody dressed in black with a hood, everybody the same
- ana-lisa: 23:20:16
- hides the difference of body between different performers
- fe2cruz: 23:20:38
- but you guys still want color in each active frame or can we go greyscale?
- ana-lisa: 23:20:52
- we will try on wednesday
- fe2cruz: 23:21:06
- b/w would make it easier to match
- laure.dit: 23:21:13
- yeah, do we need to fix anything more until then ?
- ana-lisa: 23:21:25
- how it looks like all grey and how it is with one blue-red-green frame (frames 2-4-6)
- fe2cruz: 23:21:37
- i think we got it all, better let it go before we start debating on what shoes to wear
- Nylon: 23:21:47
- another issue is letting people know we are doing this.....I will post Node1 (UK) and Myspace for reposts and use a friends emailing list.......what else
Mailing list & inclusionary invitation (I will write one in English to my mailing list of people unfamiliar with viewing events on line) to expand the on-line audience. Could we use VOIP numbers or IM to walk potential audience members through getting their computers configured….help being available up to one hour before broadcast? If not this time…maybe next time or provided by the gallery - ana-lisa: 23:21:56
- lets see each other on wedneday-
- ana-lisa: 23:22:17
- dressed with appropèriate clothes, maybe several choices
- ana-lisa: 23:22:33
- framing appropriate space
- fe2cruz: 23:23:06
- cool yeah judy could youforward that nice invitation earlier to manuel to give to the big mailing list?
- Nylon: 23:23:20
- yes
- fe2cruz: 23:23:27
- like a nice warm letter rather than an annoying annoucement
- boris: 23:23:49
- fantomas:
- boris: 23:23:50
- http://www.septimovicio.com/datos/sjff_01_img0516.jpg
http://www.oeil-ecran.com/images/vampires.jpg - Nylon: 23:23:52
- with charm
- aether9: 23:24:17
- boris: that's irma vep
- boris: 23:24:26
- yes a really sweet announcment¨
- boris: 23:24:43
- irma vep - vampire - related to fantomas somewhat
- fe2cruz: 23:24:56
- should we scratch in fin like in assayas irma vep
- aether9: 23:25:16
- yeah. .definitively material for a future aether show...
- ana-lisa: 23:25:25
- see you on wednesday guys
- fe2cruz: 23:25:38
- ok thanks everyone see you wed
- Nylon: 23:25:40
- final///details or wed?
- Nylon: 23:25:47
- time
- boris: 23:25:52
- for the announcment: let's not do it at the last moment!
- Nylon: 23:26:03
- right away champ
- fe2cruz: 23:26:05
- wed midnight bxl
- cym: 23:26:07
- ok see you wednesday
- cym: 23:26:15
- midnight? okay
- Nylon: 23:26:19
- OK
- aether9: 23:26:31
- ok
- boris: 23:26:42
- everybody collects his emails and we make a big powerfull adressboog database and send it
- boris: 23:26:57
- on wednesday nite!
- boris: 23:27:00
- see you then.
- cym: 23:27:07
- ok
- fe2cruz: 23:27:12
- ok cu
- boris: 23:27:31
- bye all!
- Nylon: 23:27:32
- OK.....bye....will check for Boris's dub when I get up
- laure.dit: 23:27:47
- bye
- boris: 23:28:19
- ok
2007-12-13
- aether9: 00:12:00
- time to start rehearsal, isn't it?
- aether9: 00:12:14
- hello everybody
- fe2cruz: 00:12:40
- hi
- Nylon: 00:12:42
- we're set
- aether9: 00:13:18
- as you can see, page http://1904.cc/ is under reconstruction
- aether9: 00:13:33
- allows now to jump directly to performance window
- fe2cruz: 00:14:16
- oh my, that looks sharp!
- aether9: 00:14:29
- for the people (laure? chloé) who want to type the text in the upper text fields, there is a page at http://1904.cc/shout/ that allows to input the text
- paula vélez: 00:14:32
- hi
- aether9: 00:15:02
- the small textbox for the audience isnt fully finished yet, need still to implement a refresh routine..
- aether9: 00:15:34
- sound is working..
- boris: 00:15:58
- yo - we need 15 mintues before transmitting in brussels.
- boris: 00:16:12
- what's the sound link again?
- aether9: 00:16:53
- here the flash player is working well
- aether9: 00:17:20
- but if necessary, the link is http://giss.tv:8000/aether.mp3
- paula vélez: 00:18:05
- yes, i can hear sound too
- paula vélez: 00:18:14
- it works the organ
- paula vélez: 00:18:19
- piano
- nathalie: 00:18:36
- mm i try to hear directly and only in the html interface
- nathalie: 00:18:41
- but it doesn't work
- nathalie: 00:18:45
- i mean the sound
- nathalie: 00:18:53
- maybe the delay
- nathalie: 00:19:04
- i just push the button play
- fe2cruz: 00:19:06
- try refreshing your browser
- nathalie: 00:19:32
- ok i try
- nathalie: 00:19:33
- tx
- fe2cruz: 00:19:57
- if you had it open earlier before judy transmitted then you'll need to refresh it sometimes to get the flash object to grab it properlly
- nathalie: 00:20:28
- ok
- nathalie: 00:20:42
- yes i think i opened before
- nathalie: 00:22:00
- ok i'm listening now
- fe2cruz: 00:22:17
- cool
- boris: 00:22:57
- ok here we don't have the right setting at all for the moment - we will have the right setting
- boris: 00:23:04
- by friday
- fe2cruz: 00:23:25
- yeah i hear the sound too
- paula vélez: 00:23:34
- i hear you
- fe2cruz: 00:23:37
- i'm no where near what i need either
- paula vélez: 00:23:56
- hello
- paula vélez: 00:23:58
- hahaha
- fe2cruz: 00:24:17
- max & my webcam are no go. so i'll have to use vdub again
- paula vélez: 00:24:51
- i'm trying to send images to6th frame
- laure.dit: 00:24:59
- we are soon ready
- paula vélez: 00:25:01
- but not working very good
- boris: 00:25:25
- .
- aether9: 00:25:29
- i think the most important thing for this first run is to get a sense of the timing, the coordination of actions
- paula vélez: 00:25:46
- i'm actully not ready to do exacly the script... only i'm getting familiar with, so sorry for that.
- aether9: 00:25:48
- visual perfection, props and acting will be the second step
- boris: 00:25:57
- i forgot how to switch off sound on this grrr skype...
- aether9: 00:26:00
- who is giving us directions?
- nathalie: 00:26:01
- ok
- paula vélez: 00:26:09
- sound dont work anymore
- laure.dit: 00:26:14
- what about the problem with the MB transmission ?
- laure.dit: 00:26:18
- chloe should
- fe2cruz: 00:26:27
- skype = tools options sounds uncheck enable
- boris: 00:26:33
- .
- boris: 00:26:48
- .
- fe2cruz: 00:26:51
- audio settings i mean, then uncheck enable
- boris: 00:26:53
- ok
- nathalie: 00:26:57
- not sound
- fe2cruz: 00:27:15
- yeah i think giss might be getting overloaded again
- laure.dit: 00:27:57
- .
- fe2cruz: 00:28:20
- oh no there it is agian
- fe2cruz: 00:28:36
- yeah sound stream is abck
- fe2cruz: 00:29:36
- yeah sound is good, judy do you know what bitrate you guys are streaming at?
- nathalie: 00:29:54
- ok i have again too
- fe2cruz: 00:30:14
- cool 56k. you guys could even go lower maybe
- fe2cruz: 00:30:34
- its just piano and vocal anyway
- paula vélez: 00:30:54
- i can not arrive to send images... trying harder...
- fe2cruz: 00:30:59
- i don't think its a problem here but maybe less bandwith less cutouts on the giss server
- nathalie: 00:31:16
- i don't hear the piano now
- nathalie: 00:31:19
- just voices
- nathalie: 00:31:24
- 2 voices
- paula vélez: 00:32:03
- are you eeating a barbapapa?
- nathalie: 00:32:22
- pouf .. cut now
- fe2cruz: 00:32:37
- i think they stopped to adjust some things
- paula vélez: 00:32:49
- he told us he was going to cut it, maybe he test something first
- nathalie: 00:32:50
- mm
- Nylon: 00:33:19
- now broadcasting at 32kbps mono
- Nylon: 00:33:38
- you might need to refresh your links
- nathalie: 00:33:46
- paula: i have the same problem now video is in loop but my patch is break
- aether9: 00:34:06
- when i did tests, 40kbps mono was a good compromise
- fe2cruz: 00:35:02
- oh yeah, even the music still sounds good at 32
- fe2cruz: 00:35:37
- hopefully even with everyone listening we won't get any cut outs
- fe2cruz: 00:36:27
- i'm behind i need to get my files ready
- paula vélez: 00:37:57
- c'est bien les images en png?
- paula vélez: 00:38:16
- or i have to send it in jpg?
- aether9: 00:38:32
- jpg everybody
- ana-lisa: 00:38:35
- I'd like to make a try with frame2=red ; frame4=blue; frame 6 = green; (frame 5= back and white)
- paula vélez: 00:38:37
- i don know why it doesn work
- boris: 00:38:41
- chris is it working for u ?
- nathalie: 00:38:43
- i m restarting the patch
- ana-lisa: 00:39:05
- when everybody is ready
- paula vélez: 00:39:07
- whre is the color setting window?
- fe2cruz: 00:39:54
- ok since i'm usoing vdub does that mean i need to make my images a red monochrome?
- aether9: 00:40:18
- chris, is your camera working with some webcam2ftp soft?
- aether9: 00:40:30
- would be great if you could transmit live images
- paula vélez: 00:40:33
- who is in frame 2 ?
- fe2cruz: 00:40:41
- i can go semi live
- paula vélez: 00:40:41
- chirstian?
- fe2cruz: 00:40:48
- yeah thats me in 2
- paula vélez: 00:40:59
- you are also in loop
- fe2cruz: 00:41:08
- yeah its stuck
- paula vélez: 00:41:09
- your patch is broke too
- paula vélez: 00:41:10
- ?
- fe2cruz: 00:41:20
- yeah my patch is not working
- nathalie: 00:41:26
- ok i'm sending other video about grey
- fe2cruz: 00:41:38
- its webcam vs jitter
- nathalie: 00:41:39
- in frame 7
- fe2cruz: 00:41:45
- they are not getting along
- aether9: 00:43:02
- boris, aren't you a bit harsh on the contrast?
- ana-lisa: 00:43:05
- Manuel, to me the interactive box (frame9) is ugly and destrys the Beckett symetric.
- aether9: 00:43:28
- yeah, i quite agree..
- ana-lisa: 00:43:44
- even though it's cool.
- ana-lisa: 00:44:16
- one solution could be to put it in black and white, on the frame 3 position.
- nathalie: 00:44:28
- yep
- aether9: 00:44:38
- frame?
- aether9: 00:44:57
- the upper right?
- ana-lisa: 00:44:59
- but even then, the space for text insertion will break the symetric...
- nathalie: 00:45:19
- a question about this chat: why kind of interaction we have or there are between this chat and us?
- nathalie: 00:45:38
- i mean maybe we can ask to the audience something?
- ana-lisa: 00:45:39
- Nathalie, your images are slighlty colored. wouldn't it be nice to try a real grey?
- nathalie: 00:45:46
- i spoke with paula before about that
- ana-lisa: 00:45:57
- sorry, I missed this part
- nathalie: 00:46:20
- i know but aether9:manuel said we 'll see friday for the esthetics of images..
- boris: 00:46:22
- at 1.30 guys i have to go to bed (longs days for me), so it will be nice that at the latest at 1 we try something like a rythmic rehearsal
- aether9: 00:46:32
- nathalie, the chat was there so the virtual audience can express their amazement.. ;)
- laure.dit: 00:46:57
- and their tomatoes as...
- laure.dit: 00:46:59
- well
- aether9: 00:47:06
- yes, let's rehearse. or at least, read through the text alltogether
- paula vélez: 00:47:25
- star with the vois
- nathalie: 00:47:26
- mm
- paula vélez: 00:47:27
- voix
- laure.dit: 00:47:27
- let's try this yes
- paula vélez: 00:47:30
- voice
- fe2cruz: 00:47:37
- yeah judy's got the right idea
- ana-lisa: 00:47:38
- Manuel, is it possible for the text of frame 1 and 3 to disapear from the upper part of frame? (opposite to now)
- laure.dit: 00:47:46
- Judy: in 5 minutes at least
- paula vélez: 00:47:55
- i'm agree, but i can not find the way to send images...dont know what is happening
- aether9: 00:48:25
- text: just insert blank lines
- aether9: 00:52:42
- ACT 2...
- nathalie: 00:53:18
- i forgot to record a rain for the end...
- paula vélez: 00:53:23
- the server list window do not correspond avec the upload window, i have the last version
- fe2cruz: 00:53:45
- 118v4 ?
- paula vélez: 00:54:06
- yes, i have it you send it already , the rain
- paula vélez: 00:54:18
- no 119
- paula vélez: 00:54:29
- it has to be 118?
- nathalie: 00:54:59
- ok thanks paula
- fe2cruz: 00:55:03
- no sorry that is right the server list is wrong?
- paula vélez: 00:55:56
- yes, it sais geneve, et tout ça
- aether9: 00:56:22
- where are we in the text?
- paula vélez: 00:56:26
- when i try to selsect a server it is not the good one
- fe2cruz: 00:56:57
- which are you box 6 right? and you want which server?
- aether9: 00:57:06
- 2.10, ok
- paula vélez: 00:57:46
- with the boy, that is normall¡y the difficult one?
- paula vélez: 00:58:02
- that we have to syncronise the boy getting out?
- aether9: 00:58:28
- if we follow the timing, everything would be quite faster, isn't it? (5 sec, 2 sec delays)
- paula vélez: 00:58:41
- it will be a boy all the time in my window or i have to go ...oups sound is offff
- fe2cruz: 00:58:54
- yeah sound is cutting out a bit
- laure.dit: 00:59:00
- (boris writing from here) i'm sorry totally lost.
- aether9: 00:59:16
- act II, 13
- aether9: 00:59:28
- "F goes to the window"
- aether9: 00:59:40
- "pushes window open"
- ana-lisa: 00:59:49
- no Paula, the boy is only in act III
- paula vélez: 01:00:09
- ok,
- paula vélez: 01:00:11
- so, sorry
- ana-lisa: 01:00:17
- and on a special moment
- ana-lisa: 01:00:27
- check the excell table
- aether9: 01:00:33
- sound breakdown _ missed the pallet... im trying now
- paula vélez: 01:00:49
- ana-lisa, maybe i'm looking a wrong page. the link is this one?: http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_trio_table.htm
- paula vélez: 01:01:22
- sound is again working
- paula vélez: 01:03:27
- this is it? http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=Ghost+trio
- boris: 01:05:03
- anyway paula and chris dont work .can we start again new york, geneva and brussels ?
- paula vélez: 01:05:16
- go,
- paula vélez: 01:05:43
- i can not fix this sorry... but it sounds great, the voice and everyting
- paula vélez: 01:05:45
- thing
- aether9: 01:05:48
- let's continue, anyway the actions will repeat
- paula vélez: 01:05:54
- it wil be fine
- aether9: 01:05:56
- we start act III - ok?
- paula vélez: 01:06:01
- ok
- ana-lisa: 01:06:01
- Paula and chris, could you upload a black and white image with no figure and no movement? just in order to know how window and door looks like...
- paula vélez: 01:06:03
- go,
- boris: 01:06:08
- act iii ok
- laure.dit: 01:06:10
- ok act III
- laure.dit: 01:06:20
- ok act I
- paula vélez: 01:06:28
- i can not send any images
- paula vélez: 01:06:41
- do you see something?
- paula vélez: 01:07:09
- i see a black image in y window
- nathalie: 01:07:46
- no i seeing you in loop;)
- paula vélez: 01:08:05
- tu me vois?
- nathalie: 01:08:08
- oui
- fe2cruz: 01:08:11
- ok i got the ftp working live manuel can you change the interface to take http://1904.cc/~aether/html/frames/o.jpg
- paula vélez: 01:08:15
- alors je ne vois rien du tout
- fe2cruz: 01:08:24
- what size jpeg do you want?
- fe2cruz: 01:08:57
- 160 120 all i got
- nathalie: 01:09:07
- tu dois pas être sur la bonne interfaced paula
- paula vélez: 01:12:09
- sorry for the image,
- paula vélez: 01:12:31
- it is block ans ugly with color
- aether9: 01:13:24
- now boris would sit on the chair again..
- aether9: 01:13:40
- act II, 25-33
- aether9: 01:16:21
- Now, view of Corridor...
- aether9: 01:17:17
- boris: close-up of cassette
- aether9: 01:17:31
- act III, scene 12
- Nylon: 01:19:55
- I guess there is no small boy at this time. Right? For act3
- ana-lisa: 01:20:30
- WHAt time is it in colombia?
- ana-lisa: 01:20:35
- ...
- ana-lisa: 01:20:59
- close up of manuel's face in the miror
- ana-lisa: 01:21:13
- <CLOSE close up
- ana-lisa: 01:21:58
- bravo paula!
- nathalie: 01:22:17
- yep so great
- ana-lisa: 01:22:37
- PLEASE, let's try the three TV color for frame 2-4-6
- fe2cruz: 01:22:56
- sorry will get them uploaded in a sec
- paula vélez: 01:24:09
- it is 19h30
- nathalie: 01:24:11
- what is the name of the paula boy?
- nathalie: 01:24:29
- bravo
- ana-lisa: 01:24:40
- let's try also an uniform ending for all active frames.
- paula vélez: 01:24:46
- pedro
- paula vélez: 01:25:05
- my son mame is pedro
- nathalie: 01:25:12
- ok
- paula vélez: 01:25:17
- so this is an improvise coat
- paula vélez: 01:25:29
- to big for the moment and a hat if you wnat
- paula vélez: 01:25:32
- want
- nathalie: 01:25:51
- i find this big coat is interesting..
- paula vélez: 01:26:15
- ok
- Nylon: 01:26:27
- OK we have to kill sound broadcast now
- paula vélez: 01:26:39
- sound doesnto worl anymore
- Nylon: 01:26:50
- when is the next rehearsal?
- aether9: 01:27:14
- next rehearsal was scheduled for friday
- paula vélez: 01:27:17
- i wil work with an idenpendent camera of cours and not the web one in may computer
- paula vélez: 01:27:35
- at what time fiday?
- nathalie: 01:27:42
- the same
- paula vélez: 01:27:50
- i am free tomorrow too
- Nylon: 01:28:02
- OK....its a date
- paula vélez: 01:28:10
- i would like to do exacly the script
- aether9: 01:28:24
- wouldnt it be possible to do it earlier, on friday?
- Nylon: 01:28:38
- Fri 6 PM NYC time. we will slightly improve by then...our set up
- paula vélez: 01:28:40
- a rehersal and arrange space properly too
- nathalie: 01:28:41
- paula do you have - or someone else - video of the rain?
- fe2cruz: 01:28:43
- yeah sorry for the dead frame
- aether9: 01:28:50
- because we will need quite a certain amount of time
- fe2cruz: 01:28:51
- i'll have it all ready friday
- boris: 01:29:09
- we could do it earlier on friday!
- Nylon: 01:29:11
- having a person prompting on Skype was very good/helpful
- paula vélez: 01:29:16
- rain? by a window
- boris: 01:29:18
- yes indeed
- Nylon: 01:29:29
- it is easy to get lost in the action
- fe2cruz: 01:29:33
- is everyone available before midnight cest
- ana-lisa: 01:29:41
- I won't take part to the rehearsal friday.
- nathalie: 01:29:43
- ok so send me
- nathalie: 01:29:48
- the rain
- nathalie: 01:30:02
- or the video of the rain
- nathalie: 01:30:03
- ;)
- ana-lisa: 01:30:20
- but it doesn't really matter. the text is working. just that I can't manage both frames alone
- ana-lisa: 01:31:03
- one frame is enough
- paula vélez: 01:31:46
- you need a rain video or sound? there is a great sound judy send i think
- paula vélez: 01:31:51
- was jud
- aether9: 01:32:18
- the rain seen from window will be needed for the upper frame
- nathalie: 01:32:21
- rain video
- aether9: 01:32:36
- chris, do you think you will manage to get a working camera?
- aether9: 01:33:18
- i guess DV-cams should work with jitter?
- aether9: 01:33:53
- and paula, did you resolve the problem and what was it?
- paula vélez: 01:33:54
- ok, i will look in my video archives... i think i have in a lake.... will look if i have rain in a glass window
- paula vélez: 01:34:02
- i dont
- nathalie: 01:34:03
- friday i can be free 2pm until 6pm or midnight
- ana-lisa: 01:34:10
- LET'S TRY THE COLOUR THING
- paula vélez: 01:34:20
- i dont know, i restart a lot of times max
- nathalie: 01:34:30
- or maybe someone can send me a rain here in brussel?
- paula vélez: 01:34:34
- and in this moment is blocked
- fe2cruz: 01:35:39
- yeah sorry where on the ftp would i load a single jpg for frame 2?
- paula vélez: 01:35:43
- the server list doesnt afect?
- nathalie: 01:35:45
- yep but sorry who is ana-lisa?
- fe2cruz: 01:35:58
- i'm getting all confused on the ftp folders
- paula vélez: 01:36:00
- i have to select there 6th frame
- nathalie: 01:36:28
- ana-lisa is chloé?
- aether9: 01:36:42
- chris, frame 2 is : ftp://10111.org/web/2/
- fe2cruz: 01:36:50
- oh web !
- aether9: 01:37:18
- that's the path for the upload
- aether9: 01:37:34
- sent file servers.txt to members of this chat
- nathalie: 01:37:47
- tx manu
- ana-lisa: 01:37:49
- yes, chloé is ana-lisa
- aether9: 01:37:56
- sorry just wanted to paste the file name...
- nathalie: 01:37:58
- ok tx chloé
- aether9: 01:38:03
- stupid skype...
- paula vélez: 01:38:08
- hahahahha
- ana-lisa: 01:38:11
- hi
- nathalie: 01:38:41
- so what time friday for the rehearsal?
- fe2cruz: 01:38:50
- can you change the viewer interface to only load a single jpg from my fwink? /web/2/0x.jpg
- aether9: 01:39:04
- i'd be availble from 2pm on friday
- aether9: 01:39:10
- chris: yes, no problem
- nathalie: 01:39:19
- ok 2pm
- laure.dit: 01:39:20
- good night guys
- aether9: 01:39:30
- but will you be able to set the colors to black+ white?
- nathalie: 01:39:48
- hi hi red or nothing
- fe2cruz: 01:39:48
- i'll figure the colers, i thought they wanted to try red?
- ana-lisa: 01:40:06
- paula, could you colour your frame with blue and manuel with green
- ana-lisa: 01:40:32
- the images should be tinted with this colour
- paula vélez: 01:41:01
- i 'll do it with plasure but i dont know how
- nathalie: 01:41:15
- i checked my colours in order to change and have this grey
- laure.dit: 01:41:33
- for next rehearsal we should all know whats the script coordination much better, goodnight
- ana-lisa: 01:41:34
- boris just told me that this patch is not made to change the colour, sorry guys
- nathalie: 01:41:51
- what do you think chloe?
- fe2cruz: 01:42:03
- night laure.
- nathalie: 01:42:14
- yes bye laure
- paula vélez: 01:42:25
- buenas noches laure
- aether9: 01:42:26
- chris you can try now, just updated the HtmL of your frame
- boris: 01:42:29
- i think so too that color-tinted frames would be good! manu, would it be easy to implement colorisation to the patch?
- paula vélez: 01:43:02
- yes it will be good
- aether9: 01:43:07
- yes, would be easy, will do it til friday
- ana-lisa: 01:43:19
- nice, thank you
- nathalie: 01:43:26
- ok
- fe2cruz: 01:43:44
- yeah i can send b/w for sure with fwink
- nathalie: 01:43:57
- so i go to see if my tea is grey-reen or grey-blue ..(lapsang souchong)
- nathalie: 01:44:01
- good night all
- fe2cruz: 01:44:03
- then manuel could tint it. if not i could figure out a cheat to colirze the images
- nathalie: 01:44:04
- thanks
- paula vélez: 01:44:04
- so, i will be trying alone or with people around, things to prepare rehersal
- fe2cruz: 01:44:08
- night nthalie
- aether9: 01:44:14
- can you send some image live now, just to see?
- ana-lisa: 01:44:39
- you could also put a filter on your camera...
- fe2cruz: 01:44:40
- k just a sec
- paula vélez: 01:44:51
- just want to be sure of script page...http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=Ghost+trio
- paula vélez: 01:45:01
- http://1904.cc/~aether/archive/2007.12.novi_sad/ghost_trio_table.htm
19:01 - paula vélez: 01:45:14
- http://1904.cc/timeline/tiki-index.php?page=Ghost+trio
19:45 - ana-lisa: 01:45:58
- the table is not correct. frame 4 an 6 should be green and blue
- aether9: 01:47:27
- chris, is it possible to see THE window?
- fe2cruz: 01:48:13
- the window
- paula vélez: 01:48:20
- sorry, i dont have a blue paper
- fe2cruz: 01:48:48
- is it showing now?
- fe2cruz: 01:49:01
- is it red?
- fe2cruz: 01:49:14
- would you prefer i send it just b/w?
- aether9: 01:49:16
- yeah, but with a strange line of dots, and tinted in red
- fe2cruz: 01:49:40
- yeah i cheated and put subtitles that put a red transperancy
- fe2cruz: 01:49:52
- let me try another clear transperancy
- aether9: 01:49:54
- smart ;)
- paula vélez: 01:50:20
- how you put subtitles?
- fe2cruz: 01:50:36
- its fwink
- aether9: 01:50:41
- some windows becam software
- aether9: 01:50:45
- webcam
- aether9: 01:51:12
- is there a mode where it generates some more jpgs on the server?
- aether9: 01:51:25
- that way we could avoid the frame going black while it reloads
- fe2cruz: 01:51:34
- no, fwink is the only one that works and it can only do one jpg at a time
- aether9: 01:52:03
- ok. will maybe find some html workarountd
- fe2cruz: 01:52:10
- if you want 10 jpegs i have to use vdub and it won't be live it'll be prerecorded
- aether9: 01:52:33
- no, liveness is much more important
- aether9: 01:52:46
- what about using spaces instead of dots?
- fe2cruz: 01:53:35
- ok i changed the transperancy to a solid red jpeg no more subtitles
- aether9: 01:53:38
- now it looks very nice
- fe2cruz: 01:54:14
- thats fwink it ain't bad
- aether9: 01:54:55
- yeah. did we finally agree about a rehearsal time for friday?
- paula vélez: 01:54:59
- how you put it in red?
- fe2cruz: 01:55:18
- oh no, nobody confirmed. & i think they left already
- aether9: 01:55:30
- looks like laure and boris left us, so we can fix that tomorrow by email.
- boris: 01:55:31
- no we're here
- fe2cruz: 01:55:32
- lets post something on the mailing list
- fe2cruz: 01:55:39
- either 6 or midnight
- fe2cruz: 01:55:43
- bxl time
- aether9: 01:55:58
- i'm much in favour of 6 in this case
- fe2cruz: 01:56:00
- i think judy only knows about midnight
- boris: 01:56:01
- well i'm here - let's say 6 then
- paula vélez: 01:56:25
- someone ask if it could be possible to do ir earlier than midnigh
- aether9: 01:56:28
- i think judy's part worked quite well already, which isnt the case for us...
- fe2cruz: 01:56:30
- yeah everyone will see the mailing post in the morning anyway so 6pm bxl is cool
- paula vélez: 01:56:38
- for me, there is no problem....hihi
- boris: 01:56:46
- yes, judy's part is great allready!
- paula vélez: 01:56:49
- it is almost 8pm
- fe2cruz: 01:56:53
- yeah even if she shows up late her thing is ready so she's fine
- paula vélez: 01:57:19
- yeha
- paula vélez: 01:57:34
- yes sound is workiing well
- paula vélez: 01:57:46
- i like a lot the first part description
- boris: 01:57:47
- chris, will you have the right setup on friday already?
- fe2cruz: 01:57:53
- hey paula the red is an imposed transperancy on fwink the webcam to ftp software
- aether9: 01:58:07
- So, we agree on 6. rehearsal for the video synchronisation.
- paula vélez: 01:58:10
- ajhhha ok,
- paula vélez: 01:58:16
- i understand
- fe2cruz: 01:58:25
- yeah i'll be ready sorry i had all my clothes but the transmission didn't go so smooth
- boris: 01:58:41
- chris, will you use a mac with the max-patch or the other method?
- aether9: 01:58:54
- goodnight to all, and dont forget to send to Cym the info she needs to represent our group.
- paula vélez: 01:59:05
- yes
- boris: 01:59:08
- i will do this now
- fe2cruz: 01:59:15
- no mac, my friends are busy with a lot of stuff this weekend so i'll have to use fwink
- paula vélez: 01:59:17
- of course, ,i almost forget
- fe2cruz: 01:59:27
- but manuel says it'll work. night manuel
- boris: 01:59:47
- fwink works with a web cam not a camera, right?
- boris: 01:59:52
- night manu
- fe2cruz: 02:00:07
- i don't have a camera right now that will feed into my laptop
- paula vélez: 02:00:07
- tonigth it is a online concert
- paula vélez: 02:00:17
- i organise concerts ones a month
- aether9: 02:00:18
- i guess fwink works with any camera-like object connected to the PC
- fe2cruz: 02:00:22
- vdub will do all that but it won't be live
- paula vélez: 02:00:28
- and it will be in an hour
- paula vélez: 02:00:29
- streeming
- boris: 02:00:38
- chris, will you use a webcam or a digital camera?
- paula vélez: 02:00:45
- in a cinema
- paula vélez: 02:00:57
- if you want to hear
- aether9: 02:01:02
- the beauty and the challenge of the whole thing is to interact live, so i advocate the use of fwink, 100%
- fe2cruz: 02:01:06
- paula, whats the stream address?
- aether9: 02:01:32
- and that's my final goodnight ;)
- fe2cruz: 02:01:45
- one of these day's i'll have max with a camera that'll work with the patch though. thanks manuel, night
- boris: 02:01:49
- (f)
- paula vélez: 02:01:51
- i dont know if is really good this time, but if you want to hear a rock-folk unplugged colombian thing
- paula vélez: 02:01:56
- see the link
- paula vélez: 02:02:23
- good night manu
- fe2cruz: 02:02:47
- i don't see the link paula
- paula vélez: 02:03:11
- http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/index.html
- paula vélez: 02:03:16
- http://www.jstk.org/proyectos/suiche/index.html
- boris: 02:03:18
- will check this paula!
- boris: 02:04:18
- chris, i was asking in order to know how the whole thing could potentially look (webcam and/or digitalcam)
- paula vélez: 02:04:24
- there have been playing good groups , i wish tonigth will be good. the transmision and everything
- paula vélez: 02:04:37
- 9pm
- paula vélez: 02:04:53
- so, bye guys . i have to do dinner...then concert
- fe2cruz: 02:05:20
- cool open your skype so we can chat with you at 9 too
- fe2cruz: 02:05:28
- boris
- fe2cruz: 02:05:42
- i for sure will have the images and props ready for friday
- fe2cruz: 02:05:59
- i got a big coat that should match the ones you all have
- paula vélez: 02:06:00
- i recomend you to download the AEROMOSTRA session, it was good i think, that concert
- paula vélez: 02:06:00
- bye
- fe2cruz: 02:06:13
- night paula
- boris: 02:07:05
- yes good night paula!
- fe2cruz: 02:08:52
- was there anything else you guys needed for me to do specifically for my frame 2?
- boris: 02:10:08
- nothing special for me.
- boris: 02:10:26
- i will now concentrate on writing to Cym. see you later.
- fe2cruz: 02:10:50
- ok i can just copy the whole skype chat and email to her if you like
- ana-lisa: 02:10:52
- SEE YOU GUYS. good night. good start!
- fe2cruz: 02:11:02
- night chloe, thanks
- fe2cruz: 02:12:37
- k night boris see you friday too